From: Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] scsi host sysfs support again [0/4]
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:23:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030506172312.GA1697@beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1052238508.1819.42.camel@mulgrave>
James Bottomley [James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com] wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 03:33, Mike Anderson wrote:
> > Example tree:
> >
> > # tree /sys/class/scsi_host
> > /sys/class/scsi_host
> > |-- host0
> > | |-- cmd_per_lun
> > | |-- device -> ../../../devices/pci0/00:09.0/host0
> > | |-- host_busy
> > | |-- sg_tablesize
> > | |-- unchecked_isa_dma
> > | `-- unique_id
>
> Could you elaborate a bit more on why the host properties are under the
> class tree, but the scsi_device properties are under the device tree.
>
> I think this could be my misunderstanding of the class concept: I
> thought it was going to be a unifying abstraction, e.g. a class for all
> tape devices (be they SCSI, ide or the oddball qic ones) that would
> export a unifying interface that all tapes could use. Therefore, you
> have a device with a set of intrinsic properties exposed in the device
> tree plus a set of classes whose interfaces it chooses to export.
>
> I could see us adding a scsi_device class and moving all the device
> properties under there too, I suppose.
>
> What I think I'm looking for is clarification of what is a "class
> property" vs what is a "device property"
>
Patrick can probably give a better clarification, but from the a past
driver model document:
"A device class describes a function that a device performs, regardless
of the bus on which a particular device resides"
The old class support was tied to drivers and devices where added to
a class when a driver bound to a device. This would as limited creating
a class scsi_device as the attributes would have existed without a upper
level driver binding to it.
A Scsi_Host seems to meet the previous description. The class container
also reduces the effort in locating Scsi_Host attributes which could be
located anywhere in the bus / legacy tree.
One could create a scsi_device class though it is already unified by the
constraint the only one type of "object" can exist on a "bus/devices"
list. It does make the lookup of attributes asymmetric and a class
"scsi_device" could be created to add uniformity.
Other classes to consider:
(scsi_tape or tape), (scsi_disk or disk), (scsi_gen).
I believe Greg KH mentioned something to me about why we would select
scsi_tape over tape, but I have forgot the reason.
-andmike
--
Michael Anderson
andmike@us.ibm.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-06 17:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-05 8:33 [RFC] scsi host sysfs support again [0/4] Mike Anderson
2003-05-05 8:34 ` [RFC] scsi host sysfs support again [1/4] Mike Anderson
2003-05-05 8:35 ` [RFC] scsi host sysfs support again [2/4] Mike Anderson
2003-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC] scsi host sysfs support again [3/4] Mike Anderson
2003-05-05 8:38 ` [RFC] scsi host sysfs support again [4/4] Mike Anderson
2003-05-05 8:38 ` [RFC] scsi host sysfs support again [0/4] Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-05 9:40 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-05-05 10:00 ` Mike Anderson
2003-05-05 9:48 ` Mike Anderson
2003-05-05 10:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-06 1:05 ` Mike Anderson
2003-05-07 15:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-07 16:15 ` Mike Anderson
2003-05-07 16:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-05 11:46 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-05-05 21:45 ` Mike Anderson
2003-05-06 1:12 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-05-06 16:28 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-06 17:23 ` Mike Anderson [this message]
2003-05-07 23:19 ` Willem Riede
2003-05-08 0:09 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-05-08 1:44 ` Mike Anderson
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