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From: "Philip R. Auld" <pauld@egenera.com>
To: Mike Christie <mikenc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	Simon Kelley <simon@thekelleys.org.uk>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Is there a grand plan for FC failover?
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:24:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040129102430.G11527@vienna.EGENERA.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <401839A8.307@us.ibm.com>; from mikenc@us.ibm.com on Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 02:37:28PM -0800

Rumor has it that on Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 02:37:28PM -0800 Mike Christie said:
> Philip R. Auld wrote:
> > Hi James,
> > 	Thanks for the reply. 
> > 
> > Rumor has it that on Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:57:29AM -0600 James Bottomley said:
> > 
> >>On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 09:02, Philip R. Auld wrote:
> >>
> >>>	1) load balancing when possible: it's not enough to be just a 
> >>>		failover mechanism.
> >>
> >>For first out, a failover target supplies most of the needs.  Nothing
> >>prevents an aggregation target being added later, but failover is
> >>essential.
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, failover is necessary, but not sufficient to make a decent multipath driver.
> > I'm a little concerned by the "added later" part. Shouldn't it be designed in? 
> 
> The DM multipath can do both. Unfortunately, some work still needs to be 
> done. For example, when doing load balancing how much IO to send down 
> each path is an issue that the DM maintainer had asked for feedback on. 
> Suggestions?
> 

That leads back to where to put the request merging and elevator code...

The way I currently do load-balancing is on a scsi_cmnd basis. At that point 
the IO is coalesced already.  A shortest queue_depth falling back to 
round-robin algorithm balances really well on individual commands. From a 
logical block level, I'm not sure how. I'm a little unfamiliar (as my posts 
have shown) with how/where the DM code fits in.  (I've also not gotten a good 
look into 2.6 BIO... busy on 2.4 still.)

I think the place to do load balancing would be below the block queue so that
the IOs are coalesced. IMO, until you've merged the individual block requests 
you can't make a good decision about how to balance the load. 
 

-- 
Philip R. Auld, Ph.D.  	        	       Egenera, Inc.    
Principal Software Engineer                   165 Forest St.
(508) 858-2628                            Marlboro, MA 01752

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-29 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-26 14:18 Is there a grand plan for FC failover? Simon Kelley
2004-01-26 15:37 ` James Bottomley
2004-01-28 15:02   ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-28 16:57     ` James Bottomley
2004-01-28 18:00       ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-28 20:47         ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-01-28 22:14           ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29  0:55             ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-01-30 19:48               ` [dm-devel] " Joe Thornber
2004-01-31  9:30                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-31 16:59                   ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-31 17:42                     ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-12 15:17                       ` Philip R. Auld
2004-02-12 15:28                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-12 16:03                           ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-28 22:37         ` Mike Christie
2004-01-29 15:24           ` Philip R. Auld [this message]
2004-01-29 16:00             ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29 23:25               ` Mike Christie
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-28 21:02 Smart, James
2004-01-28 22:16 ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29 14:49   ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-29 15:05     ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29 17:35 Smart, James
2004-01-29 18:31 ` Mike Anderson
2004-01-29 18:31 ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29 18:41 Smart, James
2004-01-29 19:37 Smart, James

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