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From: Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	greg@kroah.com, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: bug 2400
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:44:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040402174442.GE3880@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1080925518.1830.93.camel@mulgrave>

James Bottomley [James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com] wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 11:45, Mike Anderson wrote:
> > Maybe some clarification here as I am unsure if we both think there
> > needs to be a notification (a put call) from outside SCSI. We have
> > release functions available on most objects in SCSI now. The issue is
> > that when we register (add_disk, dev_set_drvdata, etc.) or pass a handle
> > to another subsystem we need a reference count agreement to know when
> > the other subsystem is done with the the object. Something like the
> > put_device(parent) used in scsi_host_dev_release.
> 
> Actually, no, that's not the issue here, if I understand you.  The
> reference counting model on the sdev->sdev_gendev seems to be working
> correctly because sr.c takes a reference to the sdev_gendev on open and
> drops it on close.
> 
> The problem is that ULDs are implemented as struct device_drivers and as
> such, their ->remove method gets called *not* on last put of sdev_gendev
> but on device_del (when there are still active references).

The remove can do as much or as little as the implementor wishes, but I
believe there is still a under lying issue here (see comment below).
> 
> sr.c frees the cdinfo structure on ->remove, but still has its own
> reference to sdev_gendev (because the device is still open). On final
> close, the generic cdrom code tries to use cdinfo to close the device
> and references a kfree'd structure.  Really what sr.c wants to be doing
> is freeing the cdinfo structure on last put, not on device_del.
> 

Where does the last put come from? How do you close the open race or
know when the final put_disk has been called? SCSI cannot do this alone
as we have created and registered an object in another subsystem
(alloc_disk and add_disk) and we have no indication when that objects
ref count has reached zero. 

Or

As I previous stated in the thread below I have the gendisk /
block layer locking mis-understood and there is something that SCSI can
do.

For reference you can look at this thread sent by Alan about a sd race.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=107591185800003&r=1&w=2

While freeing in sr could be rearranged more like what sd does there is
still the issue of a cross subsystem put to know that the ULDs open
function will not be called again.

-andmike
--
Michael Anderson
andmike@us.ibm.com


  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-02 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-01 21:15 bug 2400 Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 21:52 ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 22:08   ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 22:48     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 22:40   ` James Bottomley
2004-04-01 22:53     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 23:07 ` Matthew Dharm
2004-04-01 23:32 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02  0:29   ` Steven Dake
2004-04-02  8:43   ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 15:57     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 16:45       ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 17:05         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 17:44           ` Mike Anderson [this message]
2004-04-02 18:13             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 23:40               ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-03  0:25                 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-04  1:40                   ` Alan Stern
2004-04-04 15:23                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-04 16:46                       ` Alan Stern
2004-04-04 17:04                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  3:17                           ` Alan Stern
2004-04-05 14:59                             ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-05 21:27                             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 14:00                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-05 22:10                             ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-04-06 14:10                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 14:09                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 16:24                                 ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-08 18:33                                   ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 19:44                                     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-05 13:30                           ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2004-04-04 18:16                       ` David Brownell
2004-04-04 18:42                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  3:54                           ` David Brownell
2004-04-05 21:44                             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 23:23                               ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2004-04-06  1:19                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  6:52                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-04-06 14:03                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-07  9:19                                       ` Oliver.Neukum
2004-04-06 15:10                                   ` David Brownell
2004-04-06 15:47                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 16:16                                       ` David Brownell
2004-04-06 16:55                                       ` Alan Stern
2004-04-06 17:13                                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 23:36   ` James Bottomley
2004-04-03  0:11     ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-03  0:16       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  4:33     ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-04-05 14:09       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 21:07       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  9:22         ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-06 13:56           ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 14:04             ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-06 14:09               ` James Bottomley
2004-04-08 23:06         ` Greg KH
2004-04-09 11:28           ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 14:03     ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-05 21:08       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  9:22         ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-06 15:09 Heiko Carstens

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