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From: Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	greg@kroah.com, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: bug 2400
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:40:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040402234051.GB1472@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1080929583.1804.122.camel@mulgrave>

James Bottomley [James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com] wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 12:44, Mike Anderson wrote:
> > Where does the last put come from? How do you close the open race or
> > know when the final put_disk has been called? SCSI cannot do this alone
> > as we have created and registered an object in another subsystem
> > (alloc_disk and add_disk) and we have no indication when that objects
> > ref count has reached zero. 
> > 
> > Or
> > 
> > As I previous stated in the thread below I have the gendisk /
> > block layer locking mis-understood and there is something that SCSI can
> > do.
> 
> well, sr has elected to merge these, so it takes a reference to
> sdev_gendev on first open and releases it on last close of the block
> device.  This is what ties the SCSI model into the final put_disk().

I think there is a little more to tie this together. see below.

> 
> We founder on calling driver ->remove before the final put of
> sdev_gendev.

I do not believe we founder by calling, but what we do in the remove
function. The way sd is split out seems to match what you think remove
should do, but I do not have externally callable a release as it is
handled inside sd.

> 
> Anything with objects in more than one refcounted subsystem is
> responsible for tying the refcounts together uniformly.
> 
> There should be no open race as long as we error out correctly if a
> reference to the underlying sdev_gendev cannot be obtained (because the
> object is being destroyed).  sr seems to do this correctly.  The
> indication when the non-scsi object's refcount reaches zero is given to
> us because at that point the sr code does a put of the sdev_gendev (and
> if this is the last put, that should trigger cleanup).

Greg stopped by and after talking this over I think I see why sd is
racing in its current form. The race happens when sd_remove and do_open
race. Even though I do not like adding a lock_kernel it would appear
adding on to sd_remove would serialize sd_remove and do_open. This would
ensure either do_open's get_gendisk returns a gendisk struct and sd
ref's are incremented or we will start cleaning up and sd_open will not
be called.

I would believe similar alignment in sr.c to what sd is doing plus
agreement on the lock_kernel should fix both drivers.

I think the "error out correctly" on trying to get a ref on sdev_gendev
may need some higher serialization as I think there is a race on a release
function starting and the reference count trying to be taken to 1 (i.e.
you need something subsystem wide as you cannot look at the item you
maybe deleting.

-andmike
--
Michael Anderson
andmike@us.ibm.com


  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-02 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-01 21:15 bug 2400 Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 21:52 ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 22:08   ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 22:48     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 22:40   ` James Bottomley
2004-04-01 22:53     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 23:07 ` Matthew Dharm
2004-04-01 23:32 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02  0:29   ` Steven Dake
2004-04-02  8:43   ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 15:57     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 16:45       ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 17:05         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 17:44           ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 18:13             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 23:40               ` Mike Anderson [this message]
2004-04-03  0:25                 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-04  1:40                   ` Alan Stern
2004-04-04 15:23                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-04 16:46                       ` Alan Stern
2004-04-04 17:04                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  3:17                           ` Alan Stern
2004-04-05 14:59                             ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-05 21:27                             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 14:00                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-05 22:10                             ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-04-06 14:10                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 14:09                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 16:24                                 ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-08 18:33                                   ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 19:44                                     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-05 13:30                           ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2004-04-04 18:16                       ` David Brownell
2004-04-04 18:42                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  3:54                           ` David Brownell
2004-04-05 21:44                             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 23:23                               ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2004-04-06  1:19                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  6:52                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-04-06 14:03                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-07  9:19                                       ` Oliver.Neukum
2004-04-06 15:10                                   ` David Brownell
2004-04-06 15:47                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 16:16                                       ` David Brownell
2004-04-06 16:55                                       ` Alan Stern
2004-04-06 17:13                                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 23:36   ` James Bottomley
2004-04-03  0:11     ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-03  0:16       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  4:33     ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-04-05 14:09       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 21:07       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  9:22         ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-06 13:56           ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 14:04             ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-06 14:09               ` James Bottomley
2004-04-08 23:06         ` Greg KH
2004-04-09 11:28           ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 14:03     ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-05 21:08       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  9:22         ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-06 15:09 Heiko Carstens

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