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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: sg driver and Fedora Core 2
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 18:36:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040529163641.GG31365@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040529162912.GA5922@devserv.devel.redhat.com>

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On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 12:29:12PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> Fedora bugzilla has demonstrated it *doesn't* work. 

yes cdrecord broke due to a bug in cdrecord and a somewhat discutable
behavior difference between SG_IO and /dev/sg when it comes to oversized IO
(which cdrecord issues as a result of it's own bug)

> There is a long list
> of broken third party apps such as drive firmware tools many of which will
> never include source code. The whole point of sg is arbitary management of
> devices. 

*AND SG_IO IS THAT*. You seem to ignore that consistently.
What changed is that you don't need top open some OTHER device to send
arbitrary commands to /dev/sda, but you can open /dev/sda directly to send
those commands, with the same ioctl. THAT changed. Don't tell me that very
long list of third party apps ALL doesn't take a device as argument....
undoubtedly several don't but... "long list"...

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-29 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-28 14:05 sg driver and Fedora Core 2 Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-28 14:18 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 14:28   ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 15:55   ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 15:57     ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 16:07       ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 16:29         ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 16:36           ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2004-05-29 16:42             ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:45               ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-05-29 16:49           ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 16:56             ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:28               ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 17:38                 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:27             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-29 17:29               ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-30 10:37                 ` Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-30 10:41                   ` Alan Cox
2004-06-07  8:56                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-29 17:35               ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:42                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-29 17:38               ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 17:46                 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:58                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-30 10:20                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-29 16:24       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-28 17:39 ` Arjan van de Ven

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