From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alan Cox Subject: Re: sg driver and Fedora Core 2 Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:38:09 -0400 Sender: linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <20040529173809.GB24516@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40B74725.90403@torque.net> <20040528172535.GD13961@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085846125.2101.29.camel@mulgrave> <20040529155744.GA32621@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085846840.2103.47.camel@mulgrave> <20040529162912.GA5922@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085849399.2004.101.camel@mulgrave> <20040529165630.GB11042@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085851726.2004.186.camel@mulgrave> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:2794 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264411AbUE2RiQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 May 2004 13:38:16 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1085851726.2004.186.camel@mulgrave> List-Id: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org To: James Bottomley Cc: Alan Cox , Douglas Gilbert , SCSI Mailing List , Arjan van de Ven On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 12:28:45PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > > think anyone who gets told "the major supplier of this OS has arbitarily > > broken your software during stable releases for no good reason" is likely > > to update their firmware. > > Actually, yes, I think Linux is growing enough market momentum for them > to take notice. If we act professionally maybe. But breaking that the way FC2 did wasnt professional > depending on what your after, device scanning (without any ULDs, > including sg) is simple in 2.6; it's ls /sys/bus/scsi/devices. and opening those is probably a 2.7 way to get rid of /dev/sg > There's no patch to veto yet. If you redhat people are taking it out of > fedora, then, for 2.6, there probably never will be. That is Arjan's call. I already build Fedora 2 kernels with it removed and I'm far from unique in that. The simple fact its an API change makes it a 2.7 kernel thing.