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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	andrew.patterson@hp.com, Eric.Moore@lsil.com, mike.miller@hp.com,
	dougg@torque.net, Madhuresh_Nagshain@adaptec.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] SAS domain layout for Linux sysfs
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:14:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050425161411.GA11938@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <426D1572.70508@adaptec.com>

On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 12:06:10PM -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 04/24/05 07:19, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > 
> > This is contrary to any sysfs topology I know about, especially any
> > existing transport class (SPI, FC, iSCSI).
> 
> This RFC is about SAS.

But our SAS transport class should be consistant with the other transport
classes.

> >  We only ever care about what's seen from a HA,
> 
> Imagine you could connect to the same device via two
> different PCI controllers on the same host.

Which is exactly the case in the examples I've mentioned.

> 
> > e.g. if you have muliple SPI cards that are
> > on a single parallel bus you'll have the same bus represented twice,
> > similarly if you have two fibre channel HBAs connected to the same
> > SAN you'll have the SAN topology duplicated in both sub-topologies.
> 
> Hmm, this proposal is for SAS only, Christoph.
> 
> If you have multiple SAS host adapters connected to the same
> SAS domain, the _path_ they connect to a SAS device may be _different_.
> But what is the same is the SAS domain (topology) itself *regardless of
> how you connect to it.*
> 
> In order to eliminate duplication of sysfs entries (directories
> and files) to describe the same SAS device, we split up the
> representation into a "flat" directory with just a bunch
> of SAS devices, this is /sys/bus/sas/.  And the way you _connect_
> to those SAS devices is represented in sys/class/sas_ha/.

Please read the previous mail again, you're not getting it at all.

If you don't understand the problems it's not worth talking about more.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-25 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-13 15:22 [RFC] SAS domain layout for Linux sysfs Luben Tuikov
2005-04-24 11:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-25 16:06   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-25 16:14     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2005-04-25 17:21       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-25 18:18         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-26 15:18           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-27 12:34             ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-04-27 15:38               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-29 10:08               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-02 14:35                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-29 10:05             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-02 14:30               ` Luben Tuikov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-27 14:54 Martin Peschke3
2005-04-27 15:52 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-04-27 18:57 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-29 10:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-01 21:49 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-06-02 14:32 Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2005-06-02 14:57 ` Luben Tuikov

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