From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dmitry Yusupov <dmitry_yus@yahoo.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
Sander <sander@humilis.net>,
David Hollis <dhollis@davehollis.com>,
Maciej Soltysiak <solt2@dns.toxicfilms.tv>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: ata over ethernet question
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:16:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050513081617.GC32546@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1115927058.25161.166.camel@beastie>
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 12:44:18PM -0700, Dmitry Yusupov wrote:
> i'm just reacting on "bloated" wording. It really depends on
> implementation and design. If you were talking about amount of code in
> the kernel, than take a look on open-iscsi(just one file iscsi_tcp.c)
> and IET where we doing a lot of management stuff in user-space. It is
> not that much code in the kernel, really, but it is doing x10 times more
> useful things comparing to nbd and yet compliant with RFC.
Keeping code out of the kernel is really nice, but that doesn't meant it
isn't bloat - the bloat is just in userland.
> yeah, generic transport, recovery levels, direct data placement for HW
> HBAs, etc, etc... it is all *must* features for enterprise's SAN
> deployment. So, yes, there is a price as usual.
I'm sure your marketing department can use all these buzzwords to sell
NICs to CTOs and CEOs, but else..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-13 8:16 UTC|newest]
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2005-05-10 22:00 ` Re[2]: ata over ethernet question Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-10 23:14 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-11 5:42 ` [Iscsitarget-devel] " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-05-11 8:56 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-05-11 21:26 ` several messages Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-12 2:16 ` Ming Zhang
2005-05-12 18:32 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 8:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 15:04 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 15:38 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-12 10:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-05-12 19:42 ` SCSI/ISCSI, hardware/software Bryan Henderson
2005-05-13 4:55 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-13 10:34 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-05-13 23:58 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-12 18:52 ` Re[2]: ata over ethernet question James Bottomley
2005-05-12 19:05 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-12 19:15 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-12 19:44 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 8:16 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2005-05-13 16:18 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 8:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 18:50 ` iSCSI vs. NBD (was Re: ata over ethernet question) Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-13 20:21 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-13 22:49 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-25 23:41 ` NBD (vs. iSCSI vs. EATA vs...) Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-26 1:19 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-26 17:48 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
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