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From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Luben Tuikov <ltuikov@yahoo.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13 14/14] sas-class: SCSI Host glue
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:08:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050912160805.GC32395@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050911093847.GA5429@infradead.org>

On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:38:47AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 09:12:18PM -0700, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> > I long for the days of the previous maintainer.  Had it not been
> > for him and Andi, we may have never had scsi commands from a slab,
> > scsi_done queue, done_q softirq processing, scsi timer hook, etc.
> > Of course back then Splentec wasn't your payrol company, but there
> > was some common sense present in linux-scsi.
> 
> Could you please stop this bullshit spreading now, thanks?

I meant to reply to Luben's original, but I deleted it in disgust.
As the person who converted SCSI from the old bottom-half completion
processing first to a tasklet and then to a softirq, I'd like to refute
at least part of this allegation.  I didn't do it in order to improve
SCSI particularly, satisfy Splentec (who are they?), or prove a point.

I did it because I wanted to remove the old bottom-half mechanism and
SCSI was one of the remaining users.  That required me to learn a bit
about the SCSI stack and I got sucked in.  BTW, I believe at that time,
James had alreeady taken over maintenance.  I'm not actually sure who
the previous maintainer was -- was it Eric Biederman?

A colleague asked me to summarise the current dispute.  I said that
Luben's point was that nobody else understood SCSI.  Everybody else's
point was that Luben doesn't understand Linux kernel development.  Luben,
I think you need to shut up, accept advice, stop trying to do everything
in your own driver, and stop trying to have private conversations.
Just discuss things on linux-scsi dispassionately.  There's no hidden
agenda to get you or your company.  But you are pissing people off,
and very soon there *will* be because of your behaviour.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-12 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-09 19:42 [PATCH 2.6.13 14/14] sas-class: SCSI Host glue Luben Tuikov
2005-09-09 23:35 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-10  4:12   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-10 13:08     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-12 13:55       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 14:13         ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-12 18:46           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 18:46       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-10 14:30     ` Rik van Riel
2005-09-10 20:20       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-11  9:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-13 12:41           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-11  3:56       ` ak
2005-09-11 13:41         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 17:12           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 17:55             ` Alan Cox
2005-09-12 13:56       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-11  9:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-12 16:08       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2005-09-12 19:07         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 19:55           ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-12 23:51             ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-12 22:00       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 15:40         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-14  5:56           ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-14 10:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-14 10:53             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-14 12:59               ` Luben Tuikov

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