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From: Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: "Tarte, Robert" <Robert_Tarte@adaptec.com>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexis Bruemmer <alexisb@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] aic94xx: attaching to the sas transport class
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:35:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060306193555.GA2316@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1141445373.5397.23.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>

James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 19:01 -0800, Tarte, Robert wrote:
> > Am I correct in assuming that this is a problem that needs to be worked
> > around in aic94xx in the short time period, but will eventually be fixed
> > in some other way?  My impression from reading this thread is that most
> 
> Yes ... udev and persistent identifiers will fix this and render it
> unnecessary, but currently, while the distros lack the infrastructure
> the scan needs to be as deterministic as possible
> 
> > people (including myself) are in agreement that devices in a
> > network-like topology (fabric, tree ... other) can legally present
> > themselves in a non-deterministic amount of time and in a
> > non-deterministic order.  It seems clear that it is the responsibility
> > of some other entity (kernel, user program) to synchronize and sort out
> > drive mappings.  Is this a fair assessment?  It would be simple enough
> > to hold off scan until discovery is done (we have implemented this in
> > another driver).  It's not perfect, but it should satisfy 99%+ of
> > typical configurations.  Hopefully we can move to a better (and
> > thoroughly discussed!! ;-) solution in the future.
> 
> 99% is good enough for me currently.
> 

Can you clarify this? Are you indicating that the 99% is only ok for debug
purposes or as a permanent solution. It would seem that if I want my system
to always boot that I would need to utilize an initramfs solution on top
of the driver solution.

Alexis already created a patch that has some pieces in common with the
older adp driver to try and sync discovery, but we did not post as it was
failing on a x260 which has an expander configuration. Currently I believe
she is trying to port this to your patch series. Is this effort worth
continuing?

-andmike
--
Michael Anderson
andmike@us.ibm.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-06 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-04  3:01 [RFC] aic94xx: attaching to the sas transport class Tarte, Robert
2006-03-04  4:09 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-04  8:50   ` Luben Tuikov
2006-03-06 19:35   ` Mike Anderson [this message]
2006-03-06 19:50     ` James Bottomley
2006-03-07  0:44       ` Alexis Bruemmer
2006-03-08 15:15         ` James Bottomley
2006-03-09 17:06           ` Alexis Bruemmer
2006-03-09 18:05             ` Mike Anderson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-03 16:39 Robert Tarte
2006-03-02 22:38 James Bottomley
2006-03-02 23:13 ` Mike Anderson
2006-03-03  2:16   ` Mark Rustad
2006-03-03  4:04     ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-03 16:51       ` Mark Rustad
2006-03-03 15:51     ` Stefan Richter
2006-03-03 18:24       ` Luben Tuikov
2006-03-03  4:34   ` James Bottomley
2006-03-04  1:47     ` Alexis Bruemmer
2006-03-03 10:26   ` Luben Tuikov
2006-03-03 16:12     ` Stefan Richter
2006-03-03 18:26       ` Luben Tuikov
2006-03-03 10:14 ` Luben Tuikov
2006-03-03 15:23   ` James Bottomley
2006-03-03 15:58     ` Stefan Richter
2006-03-03 16:26       ` James Bottomley
2006-03-03 17:03         ` Mike Anderson
2006-03-03 17:28           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-06 18:30       ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-03-03 18:20     ` Luben Tuikov
2006-03-06  8:26 ` Mike Anderson
2006-03-06 15:13   ` James Bottomley
2006-03-06 16:37     ` Jeff Garzik

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