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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cd burning with plextor drives.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:22:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060729172205.GG16946@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607290953220.4168@g5.osdl.org>

On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 10:04:46AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

 > We do it _correctly_ in the sane paths (ie we really have the "same table" 
 > in "verify_command()" in block/scsi_ioctl.c), and the thing is, when done 
 > correctly, the command access table is a perfectly fine idea.

Ah, that's what I was hunting for.  I must have poked through every
file in drivers/scsi/ looking for that ioctl. It never occured to me
to even look in block/

I've not looked too closely at exactly which method cdrecord was using
in the numerous bug reports we've had on this, but ..

 > Btw, it's entirely possible that you might hit the same problem with 
 > /dev/hdc too.

This may be the case.

 >  - only root can ever be allowed to generate commands that the kernel has 
 >    no clue what they are doing. NO WAY can we allow a user to generate 
 >    postentially hardware-changing special commands just because he can 
 >    access the CD-ROM (ie how would the kernel know that it's not a command 
 >    that says "rewrite the firmware with something that always reads goatse 
 >    off the disk"?)

I had visions of extending verify_command() to be of the form..

	if (devicevendor==PLEXTOR) {
		safe_for_write(ENABLE_BURN_PROOF);
		safe_for_write(ENABLE_FROBNICATOR);
	}
	etc..

 >  - if cdrecord tries to do some device-specific setup, and is upset that 
 >    it can't do it because the user isn't root, then it's obviously a 
 >    cdrecord bug. Which wouldn't surprise me at all

I concur it shouldn't fail completely. But at the same time, if a user
splashed out his pennies to get a modern writer with shiny features, it's
a bit crappy of us to make him be root to use them.

 > - can we _please_ not 
 >    rely on code that has been written by a certified nut-case?

It's a mystery to me why nothing better has come along over the years.

		Dave

-- 
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-29 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-29  4:52 cd burning with plextor drives Dave Jones
2006-07-29 11:12 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-29 13:40   ` James Bottomley
2006-07-29 15:39     ` Christer Weinigel
2006-07-29 17:06     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-29 17:30       ` James Bottomley
2006-07-29 17:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-30 16:02           ` Christer Weinigel
2006-07-30 19:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-30 20:18               ` Christian Iversen
2006-07-31  0:12               ` Christer Weinigel
2006-07-31 20:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-31 20:38                   ` Dave Jones
2006-07-31 20:41                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31 20:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-01  6:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-29 18:39       ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-07-29 18:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-29 20:12           ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-07-29 20:33             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-29 20:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-29 22:13                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-30  5:57                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-07-30  9:38               ` Rogier Wolff
2006-07-30 18:02               ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-07-30 20:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-29 21:40           ` Christer Weinigel
2006-07-30  5:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-29 17:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-29 17:22     ` Dave Jones [this message]
2006-07-30 10:21       ` Rogier Wolff
2006-07-30 10:31         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-30 11:09         ` Steve McIntyre
2006-07-31  9:33       ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31  9:32     ` Jens Axboe

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