From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question on flushing buffers and spinning down disk
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:47:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709241847.17714.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0709241128520.4920-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Am Montag 24 September 2007 schrieb Alan Stern:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote:
>
> > > suspend. The PM and driver cores don't include _any_ provision for
> > > runtime suspend; it has to be managed separately by each subsystem.
> >
> > There we have a problem. We'd have to solve it for each subsystem transition.
> > Storage has this type of children, other devices will have to care for other
> > types of child devices. If we have a device tree, we should use it.
>
> It sounds like you want to add the equivalent of
> usb_autopm_get/set_device() and usb_autopm_get/set_interface() into the
That would be an ideal solution, but it is not necessary to solve this
problem.
> driver model. But it would not be appropriate, since other subsystems
> don't have the same kinds of runtime power levels as USB does.
But we don't bother when suspending the whole system. So why not simply
walk the subtrees under a USB device? Let the subsystem choose what
depth of sleep to use.
> There may be no way of getting around the need for specialized
> communication methods between subsystems for runtime PM.
That's a lot of code duplication and should be a solution of last resort.
Regards
Oliver
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-24 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-18 8:32 question on flushing buffers and spinning down disk Oliver Neukum
2007-09-18 14:01 ` James Bottomley
2007-09-18 14:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-18 14:26 ` James Bottomley
2007-09-24 10:33 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-24 14:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-24 15:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-24 15:34 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-24 16:47 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2007-09-24 17:10 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-24 19:16 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2007-09-24 19:39 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-24 20:00 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2007-09-25 14:13 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-25 15:11 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-28 4:27 ` Greg KH
2007-09-28 7:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-28 19:33 ` Greg KH
2007-09-25 7:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-25 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-27 11:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-27 16:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-27 18:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-27 19:07 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2007-09-27 19:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-27 20:26 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-27 20:54 ` Steve Calfee
2007-09-27 21:16 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-27 21:37 ` U. George
2007-09-28 8:17 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2007-09-28 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-28 8:22 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2007-09-28 21:11 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-28 21:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-29 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-29 16:12 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2007-09-28 9:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-28 15:07 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-28 21:33 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2007-09-29 16:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-29 17:52 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-29 19:06 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-29 20:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-09-29 20:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-29 21:03 ` David Brownell
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