From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: maximilian attems Subject: Re: Buggy Firewire bridge 'Prolific PL3507' Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 21:00:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20080108200046.GV8816@baikonur.stro.at> References: <47837E06.5080406@novell.com> <20080108140151.GD16309@parisc-linux.org> <4783B93B.70307@s5r6.in-berlin.de> <1199815847.3534.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from baikonur.stro.at ([213.239.196.228]:51577 "EHLO baikonur.stro.at" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752904AbYAHUCD (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:02:03 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1199815847.3534.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sender: linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org To: James Bottomley Cc: Stefan Richter , Matthew Wilcox , Hannes Reinecke , SCSI Mailing List , David Zeuthen On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 12:10:47PM -0600, James Bottomley wrote: > > Not to hijack the thread, but this is getting to be a broken record. I > was dealing only a few days ago with a camera presenting as a mass > storage device that was then crashing and going offline. I looked at > the dmesg trace which showed that the SCSI layer completes its probing > successfully, and said it was some other extraneous command issued from > user level causing the crash. Sure enough, stopping hald fixed the > camera so it functioned as a mass storage device properly. The bug > report is here: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/180472 > > What is the point of having SCSI be so careful in its probing and setup > so as not to annoy these devices, and then have hald or another standard > component blithely go and wreck the device by issuing unwarranted SCSI > commands? > > Can we please stop hald from issuing SCSI commands ... we should have > the infrastructure in place now that renders this unnecessary ... unless > there's still some information it needs that we're not providing? > > James full ack, writing over a stupid hsdpa usb modem that stops working with hald crap. hald keeps resetting the thingy. -- maks