From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [DO NOT APPLY] sd take advantage of rotation speed
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:57:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080625165759.GC20851@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48627184.9010609@panasas.com>
On Wed, Jun 25 2008, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> Ric Wheeler wrote:
> > Jens Axboe wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 19 2008, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >>
> >>> Use the noop elevator by default for drives that do not spin
> >>>
> >>> [Not for applying]
> >>>
> >>> SSDs do not benefit from the elevator. It just wastes precious CPU cycles.
> >>> By selecting the noop elevator by default, we can shave a few microseconds
> >>> off each IO.
> >>>
> >>> I've brazenly stolen sd_vpd_inquiry from mkp's patch here:
> >>>
> >>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=121264354724277&w=2
> >>>
> >>> No need to have two copies of that ... but this will conflict with his code.
> >>>
> >>> On to the self-criticism:
> >>>
> >>> I don't intend the final version of this patch to include a printk for
> >>> the RPM or even a printk to say we switched IO elevator. I think we're
> >>> too verbose in SCSI as it is.
> >>>
> >>> I think there's an opportunity to improve sd_vpd_inquiry() to remove
> >>> some of the duplicate code between sd_set_elevator() and sd_block_limits,
> >>> but it's not terribly important.
> >>>
> >>> The switching of the elevators isn't particularly nice. I assume that
> >>> elevator_init("noop") cannot fail, which isn't true. It would be nice
> >>> to use the #if 0 block instead, but that causes a null ptr dereference
> >>> inside sysfs -- I suspect something isn't set up correctly.
> >>>
> >> I disagree with this approach. For now, lets just add a queue flag that
> >> says the device doesn't have a seek penalty and let the io schedulers do
> >> what they need to avoid that (it'd be a one-liner change to cfq and as).
> >> There's more to io scheduling than just seek reduction, so this is the
> >> wrong direction to take imo.
> >>
> >>
> > Very true - you still will get a significant win by coalescing IO's (say
> > for example, to do larger, aligned writes to flash devices).
> >
> > ric
> >
> And to not let HUGE writers hug the machine. A scheduler ...
Precisely, merging and fairness is a big part of it. Plus, doing this in
sd is just a blatant layer violation.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-25 16:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-19 16:03 [DO NOT APPLY] sd take advantage of rotation speed Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-19 17:12 ` Mike Anderson
2008-06-19 18:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-22 12:16 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-22 13:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-22 13:27 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-22 13:38 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-22 14:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-22 14:41 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-22 18:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-25 2:06 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-22 17:26 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-25 13:47 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-25 13:57 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-25 14:24 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-06-25 16:25 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 16:57 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-06-25 17:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-25 17:26 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-25 17:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-25 17:43 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-25 17:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-25 18:01 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-25 18:06 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-25 17:59 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-25 18:06 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-25 18:12 ` Jens Axboe
2008-07-28 13:36 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-07-28 14:10 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-28 14:31 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-07-31 21:00 ` Grant Grundler
2008-07-31 21:19 ` Andrew Patterson
2008-07-31 22:26 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-07-31 23:44 ` Grant Grundler
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