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From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Transport identifier
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:06:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090228150633.GQ16891@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A94FEB.6050400@s5r6.in-berlin.de>

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 03:53:31PM +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> > The thing is we need to start sending RC16 to a lot of drives very soon
> > because of the 4KB thing.  And as we've seen RC16 breaks a lot of junk
> > devices.  So we need a good indicator other than the SCSI rev. because
> > that unfortunately doesn't cut it.
> 
> /Is/ the used transport protocol a good indicator for whether a
> particular target breaks by READ CAPACITY 16?  I have doubts.  Command
> set support is independent of transport protocol support.

You must admit there's a striking correlation between USB devices and
completely failing to follow the SCSI spec.  Our current workaround of
clamping USB devices at a SCSI_2 level does avoid much of the pain.

I can only hope that UAS devices actually implement SCSI instead of
flicking bits at random until vista doesn't crash every time you plug
it in.

-- 
Matthew Wilcox				Intel Open Source Technology Centre
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours.  We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-28 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-26  4:31 RFC: Transport identifier Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26  4:54 ` Julian Calaby
2009-02-26  5:32   ` Joel Becker
2009-02-26 20:22     ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26  9:53 ` Douglas Gilbert
2009-02-26 15:39 ` Mike Christie
2009-02-26 15:48 ` James Bottomley
2009-02-26 20:32   ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-27  7:33     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-02-28  4:13       ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-28  4:50         ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-02-28  5:19           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-02-28 15:40             ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-28 14:53     ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-28 15:06       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2009-02-28 15:19         ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-28 15:36           ` James Bottomley
2009-02-28 15:54           ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-28 15:42       ` Martin K. Petersen

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