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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jing Huang <huangj@brocade.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:25:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091012142527.GB1037@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091012130652.GB25464@elte.hu>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 03:06:52PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 11:15 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > So would it be acceptable to merge the 50 kloc of crap _during_ the
> > > > > merge window?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes. I actually looked at the driver (since I had pulled it - I've 
> > > > unpulled it but am still mulling it over), and while I think it looked 
> > > > huge and overly complex, it by no means gave me the kinds of vibes I 
> > > > get from some "obviously-ported-from-windows-with-no-clue" drivers.
> > > > 
> > > > So at least from my quick look I didn't get the feeling that the 
> > > > driver was "evil". For me, it's a timing issue.  I hate getting big 
> > > > pull requests after -rc1 is out, and I really don't like the feeling 
> > > > that people are just ignoring the merge window.
> > > > 
> > > > That said, if somebody wants to look more closely at the driver, and 
> > > > then wants to convince people that it should have gone through 
> > > > "staging", feel free. But that's not what I've personally been arguing 
> > > > about.
> > > 
> > > Greg, what's your take on the quality of this new driver? Do you have 
> > > some time to do a review of this with drivers/staging/ versus drivers/ 
> > > glasses on? The Git URI is at:
> > 
> > To me, the matter of staging versus actual tree isn't a quality issue 
> > (otherwise we'd be shifting ~75% of SCSI drivers to staging, depending 
> > on whose view of "quality" was being used). [...]
> 
> I think you need to update your notion of what goes into 
> drivers/staging/ - these days it's primarily about code/implementation 
> quality (Greg please correct me if i'm wrong about that).

No, so far that is the majority of why stuff is in staging, although
userspace apis also do play a part here.

But I leave it up to the subsystem maintainer to do what they want to
do, if they want to take coding style mistakes, well, it's their
responsibility to maintain the crud :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-12 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-06 15:46 [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3 James Bottomley
2009-10-06 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 20:54   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-06 20:56     ` Randy Dunlap
2009-10-08 14:33     ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 14:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 14:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 19:48           ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 19:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 20:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 21:07                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-08 21:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-09  9:15                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-09 13:10                       ` Daniel Walker
2009-10-09 14:08                       ` James Bottomley
2009-10-09 19:25                         ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 13:06                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 14:19                           ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 14:54                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 15:09                               ` Moving drivers into staging (was Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3) Greg KH
2009-10-12 15:42                                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                   ` <20091012154244.GA13323-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 23:24                                     ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 18:08                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-10-14  4:45                                         ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                           ` <20091014044519.GA19199-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14  5:19                                             ` Joe Perches
2009-10-14  6:33                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 14:13                                                 ` James Smart
2009-10-14 17:52                                                 ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-14 18:36                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 19:00                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-15  6:03                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 19:11                                                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <20091012150911.GB1656-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 15:43                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 23:26                                     ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 15:25                               ` [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3 James Bottomley
2009-10-12 17:24                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-13 14:29                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 14:25                           ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-10-08 20:04               ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 20:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-10 14:37                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 14:56         ` James Bottomley

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