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From: Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@de.ibm.com>
To: James Smart <james.smart@emulex.com>
Cc: Chad Dupuis <chad.dupuis@qlogic.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Subject: [RFC 0/3] Add fc_rport attributes to further populate HBAAPIv2 HBAPortAttributes for discovered ports.
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:47:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101102164659.GA28056@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CD02F77.5090607@emulex.com>

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:34:15AM -0400, James Smart wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/29/2010 3:35 PM, Chad Dupuis wrote:
> >On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Christof Schmitt wrote:
> >>On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:14:18PM -0400, Chad Dupuis wrote:
> >>>Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>This small patch set adds 7 new attributes to the fc_rport struct so that application libraries who export HBAAPI v2 discovered port attributes can populate the HBA_PORTATTRIBUTES structure more fully.  The new fc_rport attributes,
> >>>which would be exported via the /sys/class/fc_remote_port/rport-x:y-z directory, are:
> >>>
> >>>- supported_fc4s
> >>>- supported_speed
> >>>- port_type
> >>>- speed
> >>>- active_fc4s
> >>>- symbolic_name
> >>>- fabric_name
> >>>
> >>>These attributes would be fixed-attributes which would mean that they would be set before the call to fc_remote_port_rolechg() but then once the role of the port has been established they would not change.
> >>>
> >>>There are two patches in this RFC:
> >>>
> >>>Patch #1 - scsi_transport_fc: Add HBAAPI v2 attributes to fc_rport structure.
> >>>
> >>>This patch adds the definitions for the new fc_rport attributes, sets up the show functions and assigns default nominal values to the attributes.
> >>>
> >>>Patch #2 - qla2xxx: Add name and management server queries to fill in new fc_rport attributes.
> >>>
> >>>This patch adds the necessary name and management server calls to the SAN fabric services to obtain the information needed to fill in the new fc_rport attributes.  The patch also assigns the attributes before calling
> >>>fc_remote_port_rolechg().
> >>
> >>It looks like this mechanism only queries data from the FC nameserver.
> >>It would be useful to have the same data available for all FC drivers.
> 
> I second this statement from Christof.  There is nothing in this
> that is driver-specific, so the queries should be placed in a common
> place (transport or in the hbaapi library).
> 
> I'm also not a fan of the "must query for the data before calling
> fc_remote_port_rolechg()".  This stuff is informational, so I would
> prefer the queries be done after or independent of the rolechg()
> call.
> 
> 
> >>The FC BSG interface already allows sending CT requests to the FC
> >>nameserver. Could this be implemented by creating the request in
> >>common code and issue the requests through the FC BSG interface? If
> >
> >We considered using bsg as the means for getting the information to and
> >from user space but deciced that exporting the information through
> >/sys/class/fc_remote_ports was easier and probably more appropriate as
> >other attributes relating to rports are currently exported there.
> 
> I'm 50/50 on this....  I do like to see all the info via sysfs files
> w/o the need for additional tools.   However, I don't like all the
> extra inodes we create for all the attributes (especially as rports
> should be many, and replicated per host path to the rport). And, I'm
> unsure where we really should start to draw the line for what's in
> sysfs vs what do you go to a tool to find out.
> 
> Anyone else with an opinion ?

The currently available attributes are from the plogi data where the
LLD has to be involved; the newly proposed attributes have to be
queried from the FC nameserver. I would draw the line here: Put the
data that the LLD has to see anyway in sysfs and use a tool for
querying additional information. 

> >>the data is used by the HBAAPI, the userspace HBAAPI could create the
> >>FC requests and issue them through the /dev/bsg/... device files.
> >
> >I think this would be a little too low level for a user level library.
> >Normally for user space I would assume we want to hide the mechanism
> >(which is very hardare dependent) that is used to get the information
> >and rather just expose the information itself.
> >
> 
> Actually, this is exactly the kind of detail that should be in a
> user-level library.  It's an FC-centric library, and making
> FC-centric queries makes sense.  The whole purpose of the library is
> to hide mechanism (is it from sysfs, from directory tires, from
> sgio, from bsg, from netlink, etc) from the consumer of the library.
> 
> The only advantage for keeping it out of the library - is to display
> it under sysfs w/o the use of a tool.
> 
> The 2 options in my mind are:
> a) the CT queries are issued by the fc_transport after
> fc_remote_port_add() and fc_remote_port_rolechg() calls - to
> populate the rport sysfs data.  (no need to involve the LLDD for
> anything other than the CT queries)
> or
> b) move the items and CT queries to the library. Ultimately, the
> library should be refreshing data in sync with the
> fc_remote_port_add/rolechg()calls, so we should post async events at
> those points, and have them handled by the library.  I don't
> remember if HBAAPI is actually geared for async event updates, as I
> thought the consumer had to periodically call in to refresh. This
> would need to be worked out.
> 
> 
> -- james s
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-02 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-28 16:14 Subject: [RFC 0/3] Add fc_rport attributes to further populate HBAAPIv2 HBAPortAttributes for discovered ports Chad Dupuis
2010-10-28 16:22 ` [RFC 0/2] " Chad Dupuis
2010-10-29 10:45 ` Subject: [RFC 0/3] " Christof Schmitt
2010-10-29 19:35   ` Chad Dupuis
2010-11-02 15:34     ` James Smart
2010-11-02 16:47       ` Christof Schmitt [this message]
2010-11-02 18:53       ` Chad Dupuis
2010-11-02 20:46       ` Ravi Anand

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