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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Nicholas A. Bellinger"
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	linux-scsi <linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rmda <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland Dreier <roland-BHEL68pLQRGGvPXPguhicg@public.gmane.org>,
	Vu Pham <vu-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	David Dillow <dillowda-1Heg1YXhbW8@public.gmane.org>,
	James Bottomley
	<James.Bottomley-JuX6DAaQMKPCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ib_srpt: initial .40-rc1 drivers/infiniband/ulp/srpt merge
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:44:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110519174420.GD12525@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikOCeNcDvoCM=BOSxQaSECFhJ05Gg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 07:29:21PM +0200, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> Regarding APM: the Linux kernel already has multipath support and
> duplicate functionality is in general not welcomed. So you will have
> to come up with a very good reason before APM support in ib_srp or
> ib_srpt would be considered for acceptance.

APM is a feature of IB's tranport layerthat provides disruption free
lossless failover to a backup network path completely transparently to
the application (eg SRP in this case).

This plays a similar role in the IB stack to the realtime spanning
tree protocol that ethernet uses, or the multipath IP routing that is
already in the net stack. I don't see it duplicating SCSI multipath at
all. On very large IB networks (eg > 1000 switches) the rate of link
failures is high enough that taking an application level recovery on
hundreds of nodes due to a link failure is troublesome.

If ib_srpt is implemented properly it may already support APM because
APM is supported by the IB CM that it relies on to setup connections,
and any SRP client could already request APM functionality during
connection setup.

Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-19 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-18  1:36 [RFC] ib_srpt: initial .40-rc1 drivers/infiniband/ulp/srpt merge Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-05-18  7:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <20110518074716.GA8927-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-18 16:46     ` Roland Dreier
2011-05-19  6:00     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-05-18 16:59 ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]   ` <BANLkTi=e+v7PLcSc8GNov-TOXFF7rurXew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-18 17:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2011-05-18 18:02       ` Bart Van Assche
2011-05-18 19:17         ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]           ` <BANLkTi==bZ0h3o5FNrg8PSJFp6F-zh5hTA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-19  4:18             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]               ` <1305778694.2856.533.camel-Y1+j5t8j3WgjMeEPmliV8E/sVC8ogwMJ@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-19 10:40                 ` Bart Van Assche
2011-05-19 16:57                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <BANLkTi=Xb-ypQNa3=MmwiLeE4Q9FWHnZXg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-19 20:03                     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]       ` <20110518170556.GB2595-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-19 17:29         ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]           ` <BANLkTikOCeNcDvoCM=BOSxQaSECFhJ05Gg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-19 17:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2011-05-19 18:34               ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                 ` <BANLkTikOsqazAE-mHFrM+=4GTs+249Ae5Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-19 18:41                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2011-05-22 19:14                     ` Bart Van Assche

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