From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Eric Seppanen <eric@purestorage.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@parallels.com>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Queue free fix (was Re: [PATCH] block: Free queue resources at blk_release_queue())
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:14:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110928191439.GA9534@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADOQvuM2VP1TsLMAOL+NC-zEypDS2NJGmiN6RFCxmjUT6LqaPA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:05:10PM -0700, Eric Seppanen wrote:
> I agree: queue lock is the worst performance killer when hw can do
> >100K IOPS per block device.
>
> Rather than just being chased away from the request queue due to
> performance issues, I could argue there's very little point to having
> a queue for devices that
> (a) have no seek penalty (and always use noop elevator)
> (b) have hardware queues at least as deep as the default request queue
> (c) don't benefit from merging
>
> (c) is maybe debatable, but if a device can saturate its bus bandwidth
> on 4KB IO, the latency is probably not worth it.
In theory, yes. But at some point we will be able to saturate them,
and then people want proportional I/O, light amounts of queueing, etc.
And I really don't want to reinvent that for every little device. The
other problem is that we a single driver might driver totally different
types of devices, already today we have iSCSI or FC accessibly high
IOPS devices, there are good PCI-e flash devices masquerading as AHCI,
and my current problem is that the queue_lock really hurts me in
virtio-blk when using a PCIe flash device underneath.
So we really need some infrastructure that allows a generic interface
to the driver, and allow us to plug in merging, scheduling, queueing
on an as needed basis.
That is my long term plan - making request_lock suck a little less,
and improving the driver interface is a good first step, though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-28 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-22 13:18 [PATCH] block: Free queue resources at blk_release_queue() Hannes Reinecke
2011-09-28 0:47 ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28 0:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-28 1:15 ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-28 2:02 ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28 4:10 ` James Bottomley
2011-09-28 14:08 ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28 14:11 ` James Bottomley
2011-09-28 14:14 ` [GIT PULL] Queue free fix (was Re: [PATCH] block: Free queue resources at blk_release_queue()) Jens Axboe
2011-09-28 15:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-28 15:43 ` James Bottomley
2011-09-28 17:48 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-28 17:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-28 18:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-28 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-28 19:05 ` Eric Seppanen
2011-09-28 19:14 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2011-11-30 10:18 ` Jens Axboe
2011-11-30 10:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-28 22:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-28 17:59 ` James Bottomley
2011-10-13 13:09 ` Steffen Maier
2011-10-14 16:03 ` James Bottomley
2011-10-17 8:46 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-10-17 14:06 ` James Bottomley
2011-10-18 13:31 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-10-18 15:45 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-18 16:29 ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31 10:05 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-31 10:42 ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31 11:46 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-10-31 13:00 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-02 12:37 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-02 12:44 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-02 13:47 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-04 4:07 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-04 9:12 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-03 18:25 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-04 9:19 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-04 13:30 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-04 13:37 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-07 11:31 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-07 13:42 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-07 12:23 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-07 11:30 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-07 15:36 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-07 16:43 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-07 17:10 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-07 21:44 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-09 9:37 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-10 16:10 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-17 16:29 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-29 12:00 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-29 20:18 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-30 7:25 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-12-12 12:39 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-12-13 16:50 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-10-31 13:21 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-10-31 13:40 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-31 14:01 ` Mike Snitzer
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