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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Eric Seppanen <eric@purestorage.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@parallels.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Queue free fix (was Re: [PATCH] block: Free queue resources at blk_release_queue())
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:14:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110928191439.GA9534@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADOQvuM2VP1TsLMAOL+NC-zEypDS2NJGmiN6RFCxmjUT6LqaPA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:05:10PM -0700, Eric Seppanen wrote:
> I agree: queue lock is the worst performance killer when hw can do
> >100K IOPS per block device.
> 
> Rather than just being chased away from the request queue due to
> performance issues, I could argue there's very little point to having
> a queue for devices that
> (a) have no seek penalty (and always use noop elevator)
> (b) have hardware queues at least as deep as the default request queue
> (c) don't benefit from merging
> 
> (c) is maybe debatable, but if a device can saturate its bus bandwidth
> on 4KB IO, the latency is probably not worth it.

In theory, yes.  But at some point we will be able to saturate them,
and then people want proportional I/O, light amounts of queueing, etc.

And I really don't want to reinvent that for every little device.  The
other problem is that we a single driver might driver totally different
types of devices, already today we have iSCSI or FC accessibly high
IOPS devices, there are good PCI-e flash devices masquerading as AHCI,
and my current problem is that the queue_lock really hurts me in
virtio-blk when using a PCIe flash device underneath.

So we really need some infrastructure that allows a generic interface
to the driver, and allow us to plug in merging, scheduling, queueing
on an as needed basis.

That is my long term plan - making request_lock suck a little less,
and improving the driver interface is a good first step, though.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-28 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-22 13:18 [PATCH] block: Free queue resources at blk_release_queue() Hannes Reinecke
2011-09-28  0:47 ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28  0:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-28  1:15     ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28  1:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-28  2:02         ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28  4:10         ` James Bottomley
2011-09-28 14:08           ` Jens Axboe
2011-09-28 14:11             ` James Bottomley
2011-09-28 14:14               ` [GIT PULL] Queue free fix (was Re: [PATCH] block: Free queue resources at blk_release_queue()) Jens Axboe
2011-09-28 15:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-28 15:43                   ` James Bottomley
2011-09-28 17:48                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-28 17:53                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-28 18:09                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-28 18:16                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-28 19:05                             ` Eric Seppanen
2011-09-28 19:14                               ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2011-11-30 10:18                               ` Jens Axboe
2011-11-30 10:26                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-28 22:34                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-28 17:59                       ` James Bottomley
2011-10-13 13:09                 ` Steffen Maier
2011-10-14 16:03                   ` James Bottomley
2011-10-17  8:46                     ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-10-17 14:06                       ` James Bottomley
2011-10-18 13:31                         ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-10-18 15:45                           ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-18 16:29                             ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31 10:05                               ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-31 10:42                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31 11:46                                   ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-10-31 13:00                                     ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-02 12:37                                       ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-02 12:44                                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-02 13:47                                         ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-04  4:07                                           ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-04  9:12                                             ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-03 18:25                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-04  9:19                                         ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-04 13:30                                           ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-04 13:37                                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-07 11:31                                             ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-07 13:42                                               ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-07 12:23                                             ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-07 11:30                                           ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-11-07 15:36                                             ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-07 16:43                                               ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-07 17:10                                               ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-07 21:44                                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-09  9:37                                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-10 16:10                                             ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-17 16:29                                               ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-29 12:00                                                 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-11-29 20:18                                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2011-11-30  7:25                                                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-12-12 12:39                                                     ` Heiko Carstens
2011-12-13 16:50                                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-10-31 13:21                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2011-10-31 13:40                                     ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-31 14:01                                       ` Mike Snitzer

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