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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Seba <jason.seba42@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tomas Henzl <thenzl@redhat.com>, Jack Wang <xjtuwjp@gmail.com>,
	Suresh Thiagarajan <Suresh.Thiagarajan@pmcs.com>,
	Viswas G <Viswas.G@pmcs.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"JBottomley@parallels.com" <JBottomley@parallels.com>,
	Vasanthalakshmi Tharmarajan
	<Vasanthalakshmi.Tharmarajan@pmcs.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: spinlock_irqsave() && flags (Was: pm80xx: Spinlock fix)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:29:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131224082931.GA20471@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131223183341.GA6082@redhat.com>


* Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 12/23, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Initially I thought that this is obviously wrong, irqsave/irqrestore
> > > assume that "flags" is owned by the caller, not by the lock. And
> > > iirc this was certainly wrong in the past.
> > >
> > > But when I look at spinlock.c it seems that this code can actually
> > > work. _irqsave() writes to FLAGS after it takes the lock, and
> > > _irqrestore() has a copy of FLAGS before it drops this lock.
> >
> > I don't think that's true: if it was then the lock would not be
> > irqsave, a hardware-irq could come in after the lock has been taken
> > and before flags are saved+disabled.
> 
> I do agree that this pattern is not safe, that is why I decided to ask.
> 
> But, unless I missed something, with the current implementation
> spin_lock_irqsave(lock, global_flags) does:
> 
> 	unsigned long local_flags;
> 
> 	local_irq_save(local_flags);
> 	spin_lock(lock);
> 
> 	global_flags = local_flags;
> 
> so the access to global_flags is actually serialized by lock.

You are right, today that's true technically because IIRC due to Sparc 
quirks we happen to return 'flags' as a return value - still it's very 
ugly and it could break anytime if we decide to do more aggressive 
optimizations and actually directly save into 'flags'.

Note that even today there's a narrow exception: on UP we happen to 
build it the other way around, so that we do:

	local_irq_save(global_flags);
	__acquire(lock);

This does not matter for any real code because on UP there is no 
physical lock and __acquire() is empty code-wise, but any compiler 
driven locking analysis tool using __attribute__ __context__(), if 
built on UP, would see the unsafe locking pattern.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-24  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-18 11:28 [PATCH] pm80xx: Spinlock fix Viswas G
2013-12-23 13:07 ` Tomas Henzl
2013-12-23 13:32   ` Jack Wang
2013-12-23 13:45     ` Suresh Thiagarajan
2013-12-23 14:55       ` Jason Seba
2013-12-23 15:06         ` Jack Wang
2013-12-23 15:28           ` Tomas Henzl
2013-12-23 15:33             ` Jason Seba
2013-12-23 15:36               ` Tomas Henzl
2013-12-23 16:34               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 17:27                 ` spinlock_irqsave() && flags (Was: pm80xx: Spinlock fix) Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 18:12                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-23 18:24                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 18:43                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-23 18:23                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-23 18:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-24  8:29                       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-12-24  9:13                         ` Suresh Thiagarajan
2013-12-24 17:29                           ` James Bottomley
2013-12-27 16:18                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-02 10:31                             ` Suresh Thiagarajan
2014-01-03 20:02                               ` Dan Williams
2013-12-23 15:38             ` [PATCH] pm80xx: Spinlock fix Oleg Nesterov

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