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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/17] scsi: push host_lock down into scsi_{host,target}_queue_ready
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:09:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210200934.GA4096@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140210113932.GA31405@infradead.org>

On Mon, Feb 10 2014, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I also think we should be getting more utility out of threading
> > guarantees.  So, if there's only one thread active per device we don't
> > need any device counters to be atomic.  Likewise, u32 read/write is an
> > atomic operation, so we might be able to use sloppy counters for the
> > target and host stuff (one per CPU that are incremented/decremented on
> > that CPU ... this will only work using CPU locality ... completion on
> > same CPU but that seems to be an element of a lot of stuff nowadays).
> 
> The blk-mq code is aiming for CPU locality, but there are no hard
> guarantees.  I'm also not sure always bouncing around the I/O submission
> is a win, but it might be something to play around with at the block
> layer.
> 
> Jens, did you try something like this earlier?

Nope, I've always thought that if you needed to bounce submission
around, you would already have lost. Hopefully we're moving to a model
where you at least have X completion queues and can tell the hardware
where you want the completion. You'd be a lot better off just placing
the tasks differently, for the cases where you are not on the right
node.

If we're talking about shoving to a dedicated thread to avoid all the
locking, that's going to hurt you on the sync workloads as well. And
depending on your device and peak load, it'll kill you on the peak
performance as well. That's why blk-mq was designed to handle parallel
activity more efficiently.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-05 12:39 [PATCH 00/17] SCSI data path micro-optimizations Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 01/17] scsi: handle command allocation failure in scsi_reset_provider Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 02/17] megaraid: simplify internal command handling Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-06 16:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 03/17] scsi: remove scsi_allocate_command/scsi_free_command Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 04/17] scsi: avoid useless free_list lock roundtrips Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:44   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 05/17] scsi: simplify command allocation and freeing a bit Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:51   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 06/17] scsi: add support for per-host cmd pools Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-07 12:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:35   ` Mike Christie
2014-02-07 12:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07 21:43       ` Mike Christie
2014-02-10 12:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 07/17] virtio_scsi: use cmd_size Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 08/17] scsi: do not manipulate device reference counts in scsi_get/put_command Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 09/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_request_fn() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 10/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_next_command() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 11/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_requeue_command() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 12/17] scsi: avoid taking host_lock in scsi_run_queue unless nessecary Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:54   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 13/17] scsi: push host_lock down into scsi_{host,target}_queue_ready Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-06 16:56   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 17:10     ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-06 18:41       ` James Bottomley
2014-02-07 10:42         ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-06 21:58       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-07 10:32         ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-07 19:30           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-08 11:00             ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-09  8:26               ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-10 12:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-10 19:53                   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-10 11:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-10 20:09       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2014-02-17  9:36         ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-17 22:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-26 15:39             ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-10 21:10       ` James Bottomley
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 14/17] scsi: convert target_busy to an atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 15/17] scsi: convert host_busy to atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 16/17] scsi: convert device_busy " Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 17/17] scsi: fix the {host,target,device}_blocked counter mess Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:41 ` [PATCH 00/17] SCSI data path micro-optimizations James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:29   ` Christoph Hellwig

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