From: Stefan Richter <stefanr-MtYdepGKPcBMYopoZt5u/LNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
To: James Bottomley
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Cc: Alan Stern
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: storage: add "no SYNCHRONIZE CACHE" quirk
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:43:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150626114308.7b5b8006@kant> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1434994588.2237.90.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
On Jun 22 James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 13:30 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > Obviously, for a disk with a writeback cache that can't do flush, that
> > > window is much wider and the real solution should be to try to switch
> > > the cache to write through.
> >
> > I agree. Doing the switch manually (by writing to the "cache_type"
> > attribute file) works, but it's a nuisance to do this when you have a
> > portable USB drive that gets moved among a bunch of machines.
>
> Perhaps it might be wise to do this to every USB device ... for external
> devices, the small performance gain doesn't really make up for the
> potential data loss.
Just a small note on the assumption of externally (and in extension,
temporarily) attached devices: Not all USB-attached devices are external,
and not all external devices are used as removable devices.
(For example, I am using 2 internal CD-ROMs via USB-2 + usb-storage and 2
internal HDDs via USB 3 + uas in a PC with too few SATA ports and no PCIe
slot to spare for a controller add-on card, but plenty of USB headers
available on the mainboard. Similarly, some NASes have their operating
system located on a USB-attached device. Small offices use USB-attached
disks for backup and won't detach such a disk until rotation for off-site
deposit. Not to mention embedded computers with USB-attached but fixed
disks.)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-26 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-22 14:55 [PATCH] USB: storage: add "no SYNCHRONIZE CACHE" quirk Alan Stern
2015-06-22 15:43 ` James Bottomley
2015-06-22 17:30 ` Alan Stern
2015-06-22 17:36 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1434994588.2237.90.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-22 17:48 ` Alan Stern
2015-06-22 18:44 ` Markus Rathgeb
[not found] ` <CAOcK=COj7=akJUhsg2Pfr5aeh_tC9dEL3rZK1yKuvTN0KyJB1A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-22 20:16 ` Alan Stern
2015-06-22 21:32 ` Markus Rathgeb
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1506221340180.1799-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-22 21:22 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1435008177.2237.137.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2015-12-03 18:36 ` Alan Stern
2015-12-15 11:34 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <1450179271.17387.19.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 15:16 ` Alan Stern
2015-06-23 14:15 ` David Laight
2015-06-26 9:43 ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2015-06-26 10:14 ` James Bottomley
2015-06-26 11:05 ` Stefan Richter
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