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From: Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
To: James Smart <james.smart@broadcom.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/11] lpfc: Deprecate lpfc_soft_wwn parameter
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 00:31:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161230003152.000056b7@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9fa4cfd-9a16-de65-ab71-65369791a29c@broadcom.com>

James,

thank you for taking the time to answer me.

James Smart wrote:
> Sebastian,
> 
> "not portable" isn't the right way to describe it. It's not a 
> chip-architecture issue, but rather that some oem platforms have 
> side-band management that overrides anything that could have been
> done in the os, and in ways that may not be easy to communicate back
> to the driver.

"not portable" might not be the term I actually meant. Let's call it
server vendor dependent.
Can you please elaborate on the oem platforms and side-band management
you mean? I know of a solution called "ServerView Virtual-IO Manager"
by Fujitsu which might fit. AFAIK it is a piece of software which
communicates with the BMC and allows to change the MAC address and WWN.
Of course it only works with Fujitsu servers and supported cards.
I think I heard that for NICs it just changes the MAC address in the
eeprom. This is not done "online" but when the server is powered on.
Even though this might be a comparable case (external MAC address
configuration) I think the ability to change the MAC address by the
means of "ip link set dev ethX address" was not removed.

> FAWN - true Brocade only - but that is the 70+%
> market share of the FC switches. The current implementation already
> doesn't work many situations - so there's no clear winner for having
> it work everywhere. Given the inability for it always to work, the
> decision was to deprecate the attribute.
> 
> -- james

How do you choose the desired WWN between the possible options
(factory set, oem platform set, FA-WWN)?
And wouldn't soft wwn always win because it is applied at last?
However it might compete with FA-WWN. I wasn't yet able to
find details on how it works.

Sebastian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-29 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-19 23:07 [PATCH v2 03/11] lpfc: Deprecate lpfc_soft_wwn parameter James Smart
2016-12-20 13:36 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-12-22 22:00 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2016-12-23 16:44   ` James Smart
2016-12-28 18:38     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2016-12-29  4:45       ` James Smart
2016-12-29  7:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-29 18:17           ` James Smart
2016-12-29 23:31         ` Sebastian Herbszt [this message]
2016-12-30 15:21           ` James Smart

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