* Re: Linux 2.4/2.5 SCSI considerably slower than FreeBSD
@ 2002-05-18 4:13 Douglas Gilbert
2002-05-23 3:41 ` Douglas Gilbert
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Douglas Gilbert @ 2002-05-18 4:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Andree; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-scsi
Matthias Andree wrote:
>
> Marco Flohrer has posted an inquiry to de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
> [German] <slrnae8q66.go4.marco.flohrer@diamond.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> that his
> Seagate 36ES2 was slow with a DawiControl 2976UW (SYM53C875), only
> around 25 MB/s. I have the same observation with a Fujitsu MAH3182MP
> with an Adaptec 2940UW Pro which is not much faster. Either bus has an
> active LVD/SE terminator.
>
> Single-user mode,
> time dd if=/dev/XXX of=/dev/null bs=65536 count=10240
> (671,1 MB) linear read.
>
> Table shows throughput in decimal MB/s (M = 1,000,000)
>
> 2.5 2.4 FBSD max.
> UWSCSI Fuj MAH3182MP 7200/min 32,1 29,4 35,1 TQ 40
> UDMA66 Max 4W060H4 5400/min 27,1 26,7 25,7 66
> UDMA66 IBM DTLA307045 7200/min 37,2 37,5 37,2 TQ 2.5 66
> UDMA66 WDC AC420400D 5400/min 15,5 15,5 15,5 TQ 2.5 66
> --------------
> table is in decimal MB/s.
>
> 2.4: Linux 2.4.19-pre2-ac3
> 2.5: Linux 2.5.15
> FBSD: FreeBSD 4.6-RC (Tagged Queueing Broken)
>
> The IDE drives are attached to a VIA 82C686 (KT133), the Fujitsu
> (actually an U-160 drive) to the mentioned Adaptec.
>
> FBSD gets about 20% better throughput. It's far from perfect, but 90% of
> the maximum is probably almost as good as we can get.
>
> Why is Linux SCSI so slow?
With a Fujitsu MAM3184 (U160, 15Krpm 18GB) disk and a Tekram
DC-390U3W controller (sym53c8xx_2 driver) on lk 2.5.15 I get:
$ time dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null bs=64k count=16k
16384+0 records in
16384+0 records out
real 0m18.948s user 0m0.010s sys 0m4.090s
That is 56.67 MB/sec (MB == 10^6).
$ time sg_dd if=/dev/sg1 of=/dev/null bs=512 count=2m time=1
time to transfer data was 18.786448 secs, 57.16 MB/sec
2097152+0 records in
2097152+0 records out
real 0m18.799s user 0m0.030s sys 0m3.010s
$ time sgm_dd if=/dev/sg1 of=/dev/null bs=512 count=2m time=1
time to transfer data was 18.777035 secs, 57.18 MB/sec
2097152+0 records in
2097152+0 records out
real 0m18.781s user 0m0.020s sys 0m0.100s
The MAM3184 disk was recently reviewed
( see http://www4.tomshardware.com/storage/02q2/020415/index.html )
and those speeds are very close to the maximum in their benchmarks
(and Fujitsu's published specifications) for outer track reads.
I am impressed by dd's performance in the lk 2.5 series.
When sg_dd and sgm_dd are used they bypass the block subsystem
and issue 64KB SCSI read commands (in this case). As can be seen
above, this improves the throughput by about 1 % compared to dd.
CPU utilization (on a Athlon 1.2 GHz box with 512 MB of DDR ram)
is a little more expensive with dd (4 seconds compared with 3
seconds). The "sgm_dd" command uses mmap() to do "zero copy" reads
which is why its CPU utilization is so low.
>From memory, dd's performance in the lk 2.4 series was considerably
lower than sg_dd. No doubt FreeBSD would also perform well but I
doubt it could beat linux (2.5) by the type of margin your measurements
indicate. [For sequential reads, tagged queueing will not have a
significant impact.] It is also worth noting that the new aic7xxx
and sym53c8xx_2 drivers are essentially the same on Linux and
FreeBSD (i.e. same code base, same maintainers).
Using scsi_debug (a ram disk) as a dummy scsi load yields:
# time dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/null bs=64k count=2k
2048+0 records in
2048+0 records out
real 0m1.082s user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.990s
That's 124 MB/sec and the CPU utilization is dominating. The
"sgm_dd" command yields 850 MB/sec for the same transfer.
Doug Gilbert
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* Re: Linux 2.4/2.5 SCSI considerably slower than FreeBSD
2002-05-18 4:13 Linux 2.4/2.5 SCSI considerably slower than FreeBSD Douglas Gilbert
@ 2002-05-23 3:41 ` Douglas Gilbert
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Douglas Gilbert @ 2002-05-23 3:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Andree, linux-kernel, linux-scsi
Douglas Gilbert wrote:
>
> Matthias Andree wrote:
> >
> > Marco Flohrer has posted an inquiry to de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
> > [German] <slrnae8q66.go4.marco.flohrer@diamond.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> that his
> > Seagate 36ES2 was slow with a DawiControl 2976UW (SYM53C875), only
> > around 25 MB/s. I have the same observation with a Fujitsu MAH3182MP
> > with an Adaptec 2940UW Pro which is not much faster. Either bus has an
> > active LVD/SE terminator.
> >
> > Single-user mode,
> > time dd if=/dev/XXX of=/dev/null bs=65536 count=10240
> > (671,1 MB) linear read.
> >
> > Table shows throughput in decimal MB/s (M = 1,000,000)
> >
> > 2.5 2.4 FBSD max.
> > UWSCSI Fuj MAH3182MP 7200/min 32,1 29,4 35,1 TQ 40
> > UDMA66 Max 4W060H4 5400/min 27,1 26,7 25,7 66
> > UDMA66 IBM DTLA307045 7200/min 37,2 37,5 37,2 TQ 2.5 66
> > UDMA66 WDC AC420400D 5400/min 15,5 15,5 15,5 TQ 2.5 66
> > --------------
> > table is in decimal MB/s.
> >
> > 2.4: Linux 2.4.19-pre2-ac3
> > 2.5: Linux 2.5.15
> > FBSD: FreeBSD 4.6-RC (Tagged Queueing Broken)
> >
> > The IDE drives are attached to a VIA 82C686 (KT133), the Fujitsu
> > (actually an U-160 drive) to the mentioned Adaptec.
> >
> > FBSD gets about 20% better throughput. It's far from perfect, but 90% of
> > the maximum is probably almost as good as we can get.
> >
> > Why is Linux SCSI so slow?
Matthias,
It is difficult to answer your main question but here are
some more figures on a pretty fast disk restricted by
a SCSI UW parallel bus (maximum bandwidth: 40 MB/sec).
Disk read speeds (MB/sec) for various block sizes
=================================================
block || dd | sg_dd | sgm_dd
size || lk2.4 | lk2.5 | lk2.4 | lk2.5 | lk2.4 | lk2.5
==================================================================
2 KB || 31.5 35.1 | 16.3 15.6 | 17.0 16.2
4 KB || 31.4 35.0 | 22.4 22.4 | 23.9 23.8
8 KB || 31.3 35.7 | 27.7 27.7 | 29.9 29.8
16 KB || 31.4 35.7 | 31.3 31.4 | 34.2 34.2
32 KB || 31.4 35.7 | 33.6 33.6 | 36.9 36.9
64 KB || 31.5 35.7 | 34.7 34.7 | 38.2 38.2
128 KB || 31.5 35.5 | 34.9 34.9 | 39.0 39.0
256 KB || 31.5 35.5 | 33.3 33.4 | 39.3 39.3
Reading a Fujitsu MAM 3184MP disk (SCSI u160 capable) on the
Ultra Wide channel (max bandwidth 40 MB/sec) of a Tekram DC-390U3W
dual controller. The HBA driver is sym53c8xx_2 (version sym-2.1.17a
for lk 2.4.19-pre7 and version sym-2.1.16a for lk 2.5.17).
The block size for the dd command was the figure given to the "bs"
argument and the effective figure given to "bpt" for sg_dd and
sgm_dd (i.e. bpt=block_size/512). [Dropping the block size for
dd to 512 and 256 bytes made virtually no difference either.]
sg_dd uses the sg interface to access the disk and copies data
via kernel buffers while sgm_dd memory maps those kernel
buffers to the user space. In all cases 1 GB of data was read
from the outer tracks (lba==0).
Conclusions:
- the block size given to dd has very little impact on its
performance
- the dd in lk 2.5 performs better than the one in lk 2.4
- otherwise performance is roughly similar
- obviously the 40 MB/sec bandwidth of the scsi UW bus is
the limiting factor with larger block sizes
Here are some numbers for the same disk on the U160 channel of the
same DC-390U3W controller in lk 2.5.17:
dd sg_dd sgm_dd
2 KB 56.2 20.5 22.8
8 KB 56.8 50.0 56.7
32 KB 56.7 57.0 57.2
The test system is a 1.2 GHz Athlon on a Asus A7M266 MoBo with
512 MB of DDR ram. The test disk had no fs mounted and was on
a bus by itself.
Doug Gilbert
22nd May 2002
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