From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.name>
Cc: Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com>,
Matthew Dharm <mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net>,
Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Linux SCSI list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.58
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:44:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E2C97D7.1070406@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200301210000.24705.oliver@neukum.name
Oliver Neukum wrote:
>>So you were talking past what I said about notifying that highest level,
>>not disagreeing with it.
>
>
> I was trying to make the point that callbacks have no place in that process.
If so, you didn't persuade me ...
> It must go bottom to top and that's it.
... because those disconnect() callbacks are exactly how USB and PCI deliver
that notification to the "top" level, and you've already agreed that SCSI
needs to accomodate those models. So clearly they have at least that much
of a place.
> Refusing to take notice of a device removal is just not an option.
> This is exactly what the current SCSI idea of an API to do bus removal does.
I perceive violent agreement that a change is needed in that area.
But the next step there would seem to be a patch to the SCSI APIs,
unless I mis-understood what Matt was saying about the issue he ran
into when making usb-storage use the enumeration facilities in the
current SCSI mid/low layers.
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-21 0:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <10426732212871@kroah.com>
[not found] ` <20030116093112.B29001@one-eyed-alien.net>
[not found] ` <20030116173539.GA31235@kroah.com>
2003-01-16 19:43 ` [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.58 Matthew Dharm
2003-01-16 19:53 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20030116195306.GA32697@kroah.com>
2003-01-16 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-16 20:43 ` greg kh
2003-01-16 21:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-16 22:51 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-16 20:40 ` David Brownell
2003-01-16 20:48 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-16 23:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17 8:50 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-17 10:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17 15:06 ` Alan Stern
2003-01-17 18:54 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-17 20:25 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-17 22:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17 20:26 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17 20:49 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-20 17:36 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-20 18:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 18:56 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-20 19:10 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 19:50 ` David Brownell
2003-01-21 3:31 ` Alan
2003-01-21 7:17 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 11:57 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Douglas Gilbert
2003-01-21 13:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 18:22 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-21 13:30 ` James Bottomley
2003-01-20 20:08 ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 20:48 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 21:24 ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 21:51 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 22:26 ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 23:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 0:44 ` David Brownell [this message]
2003-01-21 0:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 18:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-21 19:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 20:02 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Luben Tuikov
2003-01-21 21:02 ` Alan Stern
2003-01-22 21:50 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-22 22:46 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 17:46 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-23 18:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 19:07 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-23 19:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 20:28 ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-23 20:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 21:34 ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-23 22:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 23:23 ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-23 23:25 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-24 15:34 ` Alan Stern
2003-01-24 16:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-24 17:58 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Doug Ledford
2003-01-24 19:00 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 22:23 ` Oliver.Neukum
2003-01-24 19:10 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 19:56 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2003-01-24 20:11 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 21:09 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 21:55 ` Alan Stern
2003-01-24 22:03 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 23:21 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-24 21:48 ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-24 22:59 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-24 23:17 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Doug Ledford
2003-01-25 0:24 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-25 1:35 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-24 23:25 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-25 0:05 ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-25 0:45 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-25 1:07 ` Doug Ledford
2003-02-02 18:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-02 20:06 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-03 17:17 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-16 21:18 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-17 19:37 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-17 19:51 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-02-23 7:48 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-26 23:37 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-27 1:10 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-27 6:37 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-27 19:32 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-03-01 1:41 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-02 3:49 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-25 1:24 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 0:15 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-01-24 8:33 ` David Brownell
2003-01-23 20:41 ` A different look at block device hotswap in the Linux kernel Steven Dake
2003-01-23 21:07 ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-23 21:06 ` Steven Dake
2003-01-23 21:16 ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-24 0:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-24 0:21 ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-24 7:53 ` David Brownell
2003-01-24 15:26 ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-24 0:54 ` Steven Dake
2003-01-24 2:35 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Matthew Dharm
2003-01-22 21:30 ` [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.58 David Brownell
2003-01-20 22:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-20 22:51 ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 23:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-22 12:07 Bennie J. Venter
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