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From: Luben Tuikov <tluben@rogers.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <tluben@rogers.com>
Cc: Matthew Dharm <mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, greg@kroah.com,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [example PATCH - not for applying] exclude certain commands
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 15:12:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EAD7D0E.7080407@rogers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EAD7B86.8060300@rogers.com>

Luben Tuikov wrote:
> 
> Matt,
> 
> You cannot really constrict yourself to the CDB only.
> 
> As a transport/interconnect (what a LLDD is, as well as USB Storage)
> you get an Execute Command remote procedure call, in SCSI Core this
> is represented by struct scsi_cmnd.
> 
> Execute Command rpc contains all that the transport/ic needs in order
> to deliver the command to the device server (who will execute the
> CDB) and perform (the interconnect) the data transfer.
> 
> The reference you want to take a peek at is SAM-3r6, 5.1 --
> this is what USB storage is working with, not just the CDB.
> 
> Now, you've been talking about the Data-Out buffer size.

Corr: Data-In

> This is either ALLOCATION LENGTH (normally bytes), or
> TRANFER LENGTH (READ/WRITE, normally blocks).
> 
> The reference here is SPC3r12, 4.3.4.4 Transfer Length and
> 4.3.4.6 Allocation Length.
> 
> Please note that Data-Out buffer size *is* the

Corr: Data-In

> Expected (maxumum) Data Tranfer Length, the device
> server may tranfer less data, (request_bufflen, bufflen).
> This is what the standards specify, and what SCSI Core
> sets it to.  The actual memory buffer may be bigger.
> The device server may transfer less data, but not more.
> The device server will NOT modify the returned data
> to reflect the insufficient data-in buffer.
> 
> So to repeat what the standards say and what SCSI Core
> does: sr_bufflen, request_buflen, buflen *is* the
> Expected (maxumum) Data Tranfer Length:
>     - when it means Allocation Length it is the
> maximum available space (e.g. IQUIRY, Request Sense),
> (The transport CANNOT write more data than this!)
>     - when it means Transfer Length it is the
> Expected Data Transfer Length (READ/WRITE), and I say
> ``expected'' less any End Of Media or similar errors pop up,
> (i.e. number of blocks from CDB * block_size = this value).
> 
> I.e. the _actual_ buffer size *is* IRRELEVANT to LLDD and
> the Transport/IC -- since it maybe an offset to another yet
> bigger buffer and SCSI Core/Appl. Client maybe requesting
> part of some data (see SAM-3r6, 5.4.3).
> 
> Some transports provide an Overflow and Underflow bits in
> the transport protocol to let the Initiator port (LLDD)
> know about any residuals -- SCSI Core struct scsi_cmnd supports
> only an underflow residual (bytes that were not transferred out
> of the number of bytes that were expected to be transferred).
> 
> I don't know much about USB Storage, but what do you think
> about this: add an unsigned overflow_resid to struct scsi_cmnd,
> and set it to an applicable value when a USB storage device
> provided more data to be transferred, but the buffer was too small.
> (I can see how this will not work, if you need a large enough ptr
> to just write the data to...)
> 

-- 
Luben



  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-28 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-26 21:44 [example PATCH - not for applying] exclude certain commands Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-26 22:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-26 22:43   ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27  1:34     ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-27  2:15       ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27  9:35         ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-27 15:41           ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27 18:52             ` Kai Makisara
2003-04-27 19:52             ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-28 19:05               ` Luben Tuikov
2003-04-28 19:12                 ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2003-04-28 20:19                 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-28 21:33                   ` Luben Tuikov
2003-04-26 22:29 ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27  0:24   ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-04-27  1:39   ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-27 14:04     ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-27  2:29 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-27  4:32 ` James Bottomley
2003-04-25  0:43 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-25  2:12 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-25 14:32 ` Alan Stern
2003-04-25 15:12   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-26  0:58     ` Alan Stern
2003-04-26  8:24       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-26 15:22         ` Alan Stern
2003-04-24 18:59 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24 19:14 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-24 20:20   ` James Bottomley
2003-04-24 20:59     ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-24 21:43       ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-04-24 15:21 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24 15:56 ` Pete
2003-04-24 21:33 ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24  9:46 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24  9:56 ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24 14:05 ` Alan Stern
2003-04-24 14:26   ` James Bottomley
2003-04-24 14:46     ` Alan Stern
2003-04-24 15:26       ` James Bottomley
2003-04-24  9:08 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24 18:22 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-23 22:39 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24  0:10 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-24  8:05 ` André Cruz
2003-04-24  9:15 ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24  9:22   ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24 11:45 ` Mike Bursell
2003-04-24 12:44 ` James Bottomley

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