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From: James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Tomas Henzl <thenzl@redhat.com>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
	Avri Altman <avri.altman@wdc.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] scsi: sd: Let sd_shutdown() fail future I/O
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:33:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f1cb05d70ea9a060951b8b2cd4ce84d8fb62174.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5429f579-1512-b6b5-771a-70f3d27959b2@acm.org>

On Wed, 2023-04-19 at 10:58 -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 4/19/23 07:02, James Bottomley wrote:
> > device_shutdown() goes in reverse devices_kset->list order, so it
> > looks like it would do the PCI device then the SCSI device then the
> > ULD then block, so we can use the queues in SCSI for emergency
> > actions (like flush or stop) before block goes down.  Although this
> > isn't guaranteed; there are things, like device_link_add, which
> > reorder this kset, so we'd need to make sure the above assumption
> > is correct.
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> My understanding is that both the block device associated with 
> /dev/sd<x> and the struct scsi_disk associated with the same SCSI
> device have the sdev_gendev member of struct scsi_device as parent.
> In other words, without creating device links, there are no
> guarantees about the order in which the .shutdown() methods of struct
> block_device.bd_device  and struct scsi_disk.disk_dev are called.
> Adding device links seems like an unnecessary complexity to me. Hence
> my preference to make sd_shutdown() responsible for quiescing future
> SCSI command activity.

So if we can't reliably get it right, let's not do it at all.  The
previous argument you made was about problems with I/O to shutdown PCI
devices.  That's not SCSI specific, so either we fix it for everything
or decide it's not really a problem for anything.

James


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-19 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-17 23:06 [PATCH v2 0/4] SCSI core and UFS patches for kernel v6.4 Bart Van Assche
2023-04-17 23:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] scsi: sd: Let sd_shutdown() fail future I/O Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18  4:37   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-18 14:09     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18  5:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-18 14:36   ` James Bottomley
2023-04-18 18:37     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  2:34       ` James Bottomley
2023-04-19 13:36         ` Tomas Henzl
2023-04-19 14:02           ` James Bottomley
2023-04-19 17:58             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19 18:33               ` James Bottomley [this message]
2023-04-19 19:24                 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19 19:29                   ` James Bottomley
2023-04-17 23:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] scsi: ufs: Simplify ufshcd_wl_shutdown() Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18 13:45   ` Adrian Hunter
2023-04-18 14:06     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18 14:13       ` Adrian Hunter
2023-04-18 20:14         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  5:23           ` Adrian Hunter
2023-04-17 23:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] scsi: ufs: Increase the START STOP UNIT timeout from one to ten seconds Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18  7:30   ` Adrian Hunter
2023-04-18  7:57   ` Stanley Chu
2023-04-17 23:06 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] scsi: ufs: Fix handling of lrbp->cmd Bart Van Assche

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