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From: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
To: James.Smart@Emulex.Com
Cc: hch@lst.de, jejb@steeleye.com, ltuikov@yahoo.com,
	Eric.Moore@lsil.com, andrew.patterson@hp.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:06:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4304EA2B.6000107@adaptec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9BB4DECD4CFE6D43AA8EA8D768ED51C21D7A3A@xbl3.ma.emulex.com>

On 08/18/05 14:48, James.Smart@Emulex.Com wrote:
> 
> This is a heck of a statement... The customers don't see it as SAS vs FC
> vs SPI, they just see it as SCSI, and there's a lot of expectations on
> consistent behavior. We take a lot of heat defending the community's
> position, even from companies that you would have thought had signed on
> to the 2.6 behaviors.

I tried to understand this paragraph in the light of the very few past days,
but I couldn't.  What is it actually saying?

> I understand the need to push folks to the new 2.6 models, but I fully
> expect the same complaints to come from the users of SAS and iSCSI as well.

What kind of complaints?

I ask because I'm a "user of SAS and iSCSI".

> Please note that by implementing the consistent mappings, you are lessening
> the demands on the hba vendor to supply a non-upstream driver that works
> around the issue.

So LLDD would still have to do wild "scsi transport X domain" to "SPI Centric
HCIL used by SCSI Core" translation?  I'm not quite understanding.

>>What we might need an rport for is to support SMP.  I'm
>>not yet sure how to do SMP passthrough, but we will need some object
>>to represent SMP ports.
> 
> Depending on how SATA support is implemented, it may be useful for that.

Why do you need SMP ports?
Why and how are they going to be used for SATA?

Thanks,
	Luben

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-18 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-18 18:48 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-18 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-19 14:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:51     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:56         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 18:07             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 19:59               ` James Bottomley
2005-08-19 20:32                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 20:54                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20  9:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 17:34                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21  6:41                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-21 17:07                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 19:08             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 20:06 ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2005-08-19 14:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 18:25 James.Smart
2005-08-23 16:16 James.Smart
2005-08-23 17:28 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-24  0:02   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-26 15:47       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 19:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:44           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:53             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27  7:35               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:27               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29  5:16               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-29 17:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:20             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 17:25               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:31           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:34             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:09           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-23 17:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-22 23:08 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-08-24  8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20  4:15 James.Smart
2005-08-20  4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 17:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 17:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 18:23   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22  4:55 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-22 17:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 21:53     ` Mike Anderson
2005-08-23 23:55       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 17:12         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 20:05           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 20:42             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 21:48               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-23 11:10     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-08-23  6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-08-23 15:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-23 15:53   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-24  0:13   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-25 19:32     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-25 20:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 16:43         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 17:22           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-26 18:16             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 18:48               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:37                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:39                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27  7:11                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:13                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 14:43 James.Smart
2005-08-18 14:02 James.Smart
2005-08-18 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 20:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 11:57 James.Smart
2005-08-15 13:55 Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 14:19 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:04   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 15:33     ` Luben Tuikov

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