From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <jejb@steeleye.com>,
SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:48:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <430F63EA.7020400@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430F5C8F.3030708@adaptec.com>
Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 08/26/05 13:22, James Bottomley wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 12:43 -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>A move away from forced HCIL addressing would be a good thing.
>>>>
>>>>However, its impossible to completely move away from addressing, as
>>>>userspace and the SCSI core need ways to route CDBs to devices based on
>>>>address.
>>>
>>>They can use _anyone_ label in the label list of the LU.
>>
>>
>>I think what Jeff means is that the mid-layer needs to know which LLD to
>>send the CDB to.
>
>
> No, I thought he meant about user space apps, *NOT* SCSI Core.
>
> Since, the transport found the device on the domain (NOT LU!)
> it then calls SCSI Core to register it.
>
> So you have:
>
> task->scsi_domain_device->lldd->lldd_execute_task(task).
>
>
>>This is the routing information (and is really just
>>the host number).
>
>
> No host numbers, no routing information. This is all
> transparent to SCSI Core, and NONE of its business.
Routing is an essential part of the SCSI core's duties.
The SCSI core is the resource manager responsible for routing messages
[CDBs] to/from LLDs based on <scsi-specific device address>. This
includes resolution of kernel-specific identifiers (device major/minor,
etc.) into <s.s.d.a.>. This also includes direct use of
userspace-provided identifiers as <s.s.d.a.>, such as via SG_IO ioctl.
Moving away from HCIL requires a lot of thought, including thinking
about userland app breakage -- a big deal in Linux.
Ask yourself where all these HCIL-addressed CDBs come from... each one
of those CDB submittors must be updated from HCIL addressing/routing to
transport-specific.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-26 18:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-20 4:15 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-20 4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 17:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 17:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 18:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 4:55 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-22 17:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 21:53 ` Mike Anderson
2005-08-23 23:55 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 17:12 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 20:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 20:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 21:48 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-23 11:10 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-08-23 6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-08-23 15:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-23 15:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-24 0:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-25 19:32 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-25 20:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 16:43 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 17:22 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-26 18:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 18:48 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-08-26 19:37 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27 1:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27 7:11 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:13 ` Luben Tuikov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 18:25 James.Smart
2005-08-23 16:16 James.Smart
2005-08-23 17:28 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-24 0:02 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 9:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-26 15:47 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 19:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:44 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27 1:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27 7:35 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:27 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 5:16 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-29 17:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:20 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 17:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:31 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:34 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:09 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-23 17:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-22 23:08 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-08-24 8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 18:48 James.Smart
2005-08-18 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-19 14:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:51 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:56 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 18:07 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-19 20:32 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 20:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 9:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 17:34 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-21 17:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 19:08 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 20:06 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 14:43 James.Smart
2005-08-18 14:02 James.Smart
2005-08-18 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 20:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 11:57 James.Smart
2005-08-15 13:55 Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 14:19 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:04 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 15:33 ` Luben Tuikov
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