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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:53:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <430FC7B2.7080700@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430F710E.7020206@adaptec.com>

Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 08/26/05 15:24, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>Luben Tuikov wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Even simpler: the transport layer, calls SCSI Core, saying: "Hey here is
>>>a pointer to struct scsi_domain_device.  If you want, you an send REPORT
>>>LUNS and other things to it."
>>
>>
>>For the SG_IO ioctl, /dev/sg and request_queue usage, SCSI core must map 
>>an address (currently HCIL) into a scsi_domain_device pointer.  These 
> 
> 
> The request queue is associated with the LU, not the scsi_domain_device.
> When SCSI Core discovers the LU, it sets up the request queue for it,
> etc.  Again this is the role of SCSI Core, not messing up with transport
> specific stuff.
> 
> 
>>upper layer kernel elements rely on this "SCSI address", and rely on the 
>>fact that SCSI core can route from a block device straight to a SCSI 
>>LLD, using nothing more than this "SCSI address."
> 
> 
> I don't get this.

More basically...  An in-kernel C pointer, to a SCSI target device, is 
not sufficient in all cases to address a target.  This plays out most 
often in userland interfaces such as ioctls.


>>That is the heart of the routing/addressing that the SCSI core must perform.
> 
> 
> Disagree: now: scsi_device <--> request_queue, then: struct LU <--> request_queue.
> 
> The LU points to the domain_device (as its parent). The domain_device
> has a void *lldd_dev in it.  

The current SCSI code largely already has this stuff.


>>Right now the addressing is hardcoded to HCIL.  But that can be 
>>changed...  One proposal was to use (host,string) identifiers.
> 
> 
> Who? Who is proposing this? I never saw an email to SCSI Core about
> this proposal?  Is there any more information about this proposal
> and what is the justification of it?  Any specs and docs?

No specs, just a comment from IRC.

(host,string) could succeed in transporting both HCIL and non-HCIL 
target identifiers.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-27  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-23 16:16 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-23 17:28 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-24  0:02   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-26 15:47       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 16:29         ` scsi device driver Yijian Wang
2005-08-26 19:24         ` [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:44           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:53             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-08-27  7:35               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:27               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29  5:16               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-29 17:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:20             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 17:25               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:31           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:34             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:09           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-23 17:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 18:25 James.Smart
2005-08-22 23:08 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-08-24  8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20  4:15 James.Smart
2005-08-20  4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 17:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 17:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 18:23   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22  4:55 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-22 17:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 21:53     ` Mike Anderson
2005-08-23 23:55       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 17:12         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 20:05           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 20:42             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 21:48               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-23 11:10     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-08-23  6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-08-23 15:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-23 15:53   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-24  0:13   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-25 19:32     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-25 20:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 16:43         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 17:22           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-26 18:16             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 18:48               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:37                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:39                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27  7:11                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:13                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 18:48 James.Smart
2005-08-18 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-19 14:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:51     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:56         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 18:07             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 19:59               ` James Bottomley
2005-08-19 20:32                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 20:54                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20  9:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 17:34                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21  6:41                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-21 17:07                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 19:08             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 20:06 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 14:43 James.Smart
2005-08-18 14:02 James.Smart
2005-08-18 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 20:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 11:57 James.Smart
2005-08-15 13:55 Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 14:19 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:04   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 15:33     ` Luben Tuikov

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