From: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:31:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43134666.1000103@adaptec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050829171629.GB7875@infradead.org>
On 08/29/05 13:16, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>
> No need to do silly renaming, but yes, moving creating of scsi_target
I'd do the "silly renaming". I'd also create "struct scsi_domain_device",
and do "scsi_register_domain_device()". You know, clean slate...
> structures to the transport does make sense. It's kinda implicit
There is *nothing* implicit in a Software Project Specification!
Everything must be completely explicit.
> in the todo list I posted. I also don't really see the point of
> the embedded kobject.
You will, once I post my code.
Think,
- Hotplugging.
- More than one "owner" from above.
That is, on a transport you can have a diverse set of
devices.
What if queuecommand() was *not* the only way to send a
task to the device? ;-)
> We actually already have a list in the scsi_target that chains of the
> scsi_device, .devices in scsi_target and .same_target_siblings in scsi_device.
> We just need to use it everywhere.
Yes, I've seen all this. And I'm sorry to say, but it is *UGLY AS HELL!*
As I said: before implementing an object by a structure in a software
project one has to ask themselves what that object is? How will it play
with the rest of the objects existsing or to be designed? What are
the dependencies and what is the dependency graph? Etc.
First it starts with a white sheet of paper, pencil on one side
and a spec on the other.
> Yes. that's what I ment with my item (3) (sorry, I hate all this
> techno-babble, simple language is much easier to understand normally)
Ok, sorry, it's that software specificaion "tehcno-babble" thing talking
through me again.
Luben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-29 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-23 16:16 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-23 17:28 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-24 0:02 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 9:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-26 15:47 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 16:29 ` scsi device driver Yijian Wang
2005-08-26 19:24 ` [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:44 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27 1:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27 7:35 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:27 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 5:16 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-29 17:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:20 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 17:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:31 ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2005-08-29 18:34 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:09 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-23 17:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 18:25 James.Smart
2005-08-22 23:08 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-08-24 8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 4:15 James.Smart
2005-08-20 4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 17:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 17:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 18:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 4:55 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-22 17:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 21:53 ` Mike Anderson
2005-08-23 23:55 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 17:12 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 20:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 20:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 21:48 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-23 11:10 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-08-23 6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-08-23 15:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-23 15:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-24 0:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-25 19:32 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-25 20:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 16:43 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 17:22 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-26 18:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 18:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:37 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27 1:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27 7:11 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 18:48 James.Smart
2005-08-18 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-19 14:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:51 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:56 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 18:07 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-19 20:32 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 20:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 9:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 17:34 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-21 17:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 19:08 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 20:06 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 14:43 James.Smart
2005-08-18 14:02 James.Smart
2005-08-18 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 20:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 11:57 James.Smart
2005-08-15 13:55 Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 14:19 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:04 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 15:33 ` Luben Tuikov
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