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From: Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>
To: Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	ltuikov@yahoo.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13 5/14] sas-class: sas_discover.c Discover process (end devices)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:05:15 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4326964B.9010503@torque.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050912162739.GA11455@us.ibm.com>

Patrick Mansfield wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:06:37AM -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:

<snip>

> IMO adding well known LUNs at this point to the standard added nothing of
> value, the target firmware has to check for special paths no matter what,
> adding a well known LUN does not change that. And most vendors will
> (likely) have support for use without a well known LUN. (This does not
> mean we should not support it in linux, I just don't know why this went
> into the standard.)
> 
> Using well known LUNs will be another code path that will have to live
> alongside existing ones, and will likely require further black listing
> (similar to REPORT LUN vs scanning for LUNs).

Patrick,
The technique of supporting REPORT_LUNS on lun 0 of
a target in the case where there is no such device
(logical unit) is a pretty ugly. It also indicates what
is really happening: the target device intercepts
REPORT_LUNS, builds the response and replies on behalf
of lun 0.

Turns out there are other reasons an application may want
to "talk" to a target device rather than one of its logical
units (e.g. access controls and log pages specific to
the target's transport). Well known lus can be seen with the
REPORT_LUNS (select_report=1) but there is no mechanism (that
I am aware of) that allows anyone to access them
from the user space with linux.


References at www.t10.org:
   spc4r01a.pdf  [section 8]
   bcc-r00.pdf   [bridge controller commands]

Doug Gilbert

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-13  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-09 19:40 [PATCH 2.6.13 5/14] sas-class: sas_discover.c Discover process (end devices) Luben Tuikov
2005-09-09 19:59 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-09 20:11   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-09 23:25 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-10  2:44   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-10  5:39     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-10 16:01     ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 15:06       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 16:27         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-12 20:08           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13  9:05           ` Douglas Gilbert [this message]
2005-09-13 13:11             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 22:42             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14 12:28               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-14 17:13                 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14 17:17                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-14 18:47               ` James Bottomley
2005-09-14 20:20                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 17:52         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 20:31           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 21:23             ` James Bottomley
2005-09-13 12:49               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 15:54                 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-13 20:01                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-11  9:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-12  6:17       ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-12 14:57         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 16:45           ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-12 17:21             ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 18:46               ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-13 19:22                 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-13 20:23                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 20:36                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-13 21:02                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 21:37                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-13 21:54                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 22:25                         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14  5:22                           ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-14 16:28                             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14 12:13                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-14  4:57                       ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-14 18:43                         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-14 20:17                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-15  2:04                           ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-12 20:20               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 20:09             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 19:39           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 18:17         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 10:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-13 12:47           ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-13 14:58             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 22:39       ` Luben Tuikov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-12 19:04 James.Smart
2005-09-12 19:29 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-12 19:53 James.Smart
2005-09-14  0:58 Ravi Anand
2005-09-14 17:46 Ravi Anand
2005-09-16  7:28 Andreas Herrmann

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