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From: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
To: "Moore, Eric Dean" <Eric.Moore@lsil.com>
Cc: ltuikov@yahoo.com, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: I request inclusion of SAS Transport Layer and AIC-94xx into the kernel
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:46:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <433BE216.1090108@adaptec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91888D455306F94EBD4D168954A9457C043889D9@nacos172.co.lsil.com>

On 09/28/05 18:17, Moore, Eric Dean wrote:
> Can you stop this tirade, e.g. conspiracy theory,
> in regards to LSI/MPT and the transport layer?

What conspiracy theory?

Oh you mean that one _technology_ is in the kernel
and another distinct, radically _different_ is NOT?

Oh you mean that conspiracy theory?

> That is not the case.   There will be other sas 

I don't see our driver in the kernel, do you?

> solutions that implement discovery, and 
> sas/sata translation in firmware, higher level
> event handling.

Yes, and they would all be MPT-like technology.
I don't have a problem with that.

What I have a problem with is that you folks
just sit and watch this, while you could explain
to James et al, that indeed the technologies
are different and there is no reason NOT to include
one but leave the other out.

>>See, I've mentioned many times that the two
>>radically different technologies can coexist.
>>But I've not heard any technical word
>>from the other guys: you.
> 
> I just don't have time to engage you.
> I've got work to do, customer requests, issues,
> etc.

:-)  That a nice way to get out of the situation.

I was hoping you'd say something like, "Yeah, the
technologies are different -- I don't see why one
should be in and another not."

	Luben

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-29 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-28 22:17 I request inclusion of SAS Transport Layer and AIC-94xx into the kernel Moore, Eric Dean
2005-09-29 12:46 ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-30 17:07 Salyzyn, Mark
2005-09-30 17:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-01 23:55   ` Alan Cox
2005-10-03 16:17     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-04  6:51       ` Andre Hedrick
2005-10-04 15:01         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 18:39 ` Andrew Patterson
2005-09-30 19:21   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 20:14     ` Andrew Patterson
2005-09-30 20:22       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-30 21:44         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-01 17:46         ` Greg KH
2005-09-30 20:32       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 21:15         ` Andrew Patterson
2005-09-30 21:40           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-30 22:01           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 23:42             ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-10-03 13:54               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 16:29                 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-10-03 16:35                   ` Andrew Patterson
2005-10-03 16:39                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 19:16                       ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-10-03 21:26                       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-10-03 22:04                         ` Ryan Anderson
2005-10-03 22:56                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-03 23:22                             ` Al Viro
2005-10-04 13:55                             ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-10-04 15:09                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-04 14:38                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-04 14:54                               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-04 15:19                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-04 15:26                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-04 15:40                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-04 15:46                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-04  6:30                           ` Andre Hedrick
2005-10-01  0:02     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-01  0:01   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-30  1:28 Martin Fouts
2005-09-29 15:45 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-09-28 15:15 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-09-28 16:59 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28  0:28 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-09-28  1:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-28 11:42 ` Luben Tuikov
     [not found] <43384E28.8030207@adaptec.com>
2005-09-27 21:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-27 22:51   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-27 23:14     ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-28 11:37       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28 12:32         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-28 14:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-28 16:27         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-28 16:34           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28 19:45           ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-28 20:56             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28 22:35               ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-28 23:22                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-28 23:29                   ` David S. Miller
2005-09-29  5:30                     ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-29  7:24                       ` David S. Miller
2005-09-30  7:36                         ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-30 18:34                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 18:50                             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-30 19:08                               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 21:31                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-30 22:10                                   ` Greg Freemyer
2005-09-30 22:19                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 23:54                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-01  4:58                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2005-10-03 15:08                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 14:04                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 22:14                                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-01  0:33                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 14:18                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 16:01                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-30 20:45                             ` James Bottomley
2005-09-30 22:05                               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-01  0:38                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 15:27                                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 16:28                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-30 22:04                             ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-30 22:32                               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 23:57                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 14:15                               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 15:57                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 16:23                                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 16:48                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 19:03                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-03 19:32                                         ` Mike Christie
2005-10-03 20:15                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 19:10                                 ` Mike Christie
2005-09-30 18:51                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 14:33                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 14:48                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 15:50                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 16:54                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 18:25                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 15:15                   ` grundig
2005-09-29 15:17                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-29 16:33                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 16:56                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 16:58                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 17:03                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 18:09                           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-09-29 17:13                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-29 18:39                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 22:43                           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-29 17:52                   ` John Stoffel
2005-09-29 19:20                     ` Bruce Ferrell
2005-09-28 22:43               ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-29 15:04                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 15:08                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 16:22                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 19:09                   ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-29 22:06                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28 16:30         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-28 16:35           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28  2:02     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-28 20:36       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28 21:00         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-28 22:10           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-28 23:04             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29  4:04               ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-29  7:44                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-29 15:09                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 15:20                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 16:56                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 17:11                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-30 18:16                     ` Joe Bob Spamtest
2005-09-29 17:15                   ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-29 17:29                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 19:32                   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-29 19:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-29 23:20                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-29 23:57                       ` Prasenjit Sarkar
2005-09-30  6:35                         ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-30  0:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-30  1:25                         ` Hua Zhong
2005-09-30  2:42                         ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-09-30 19:12                           ` Joe Bob Spamtest
2005-09-30  7:29                         ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-30 14:23                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 16:26                           ` Andrew Patterson
2005-09-30 16:47                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30 14:07                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-30  5:31                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-30  6:52                     ` Andre Hedrick
2005-09-29 19:59               ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-29 19:37       ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-29 19:22   ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-27 13:07 Luben Tuikov
2005-09-27 13:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-27 15:01   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-27 15:53     ` James Bottomley
2005-09-27 19:35       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-27 20:34         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-27 21:44           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-27 22:01             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-27 23:03               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-27 23:32                 ` Andrew Patterson
2005-09-28  2:07                 ` Jeff Garzik

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