Re: ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs)

[Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>]

Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 10/21/05 14:54, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>>Thank you for spreading FUD -- I'm sure you've impressed your managament,
>>>how great of a Linux programmer you are and how I don't know anything.
>>>I'd suggest you keep pushing the politics _behind_ the scences.
>>
>>I'm trying to tell it like it is, in the hopes that you will eventually 
>>learn the process, and be a good upstream maintainer we can all work with.
> 
> 
> You're again spreading FUD and playing this political game hoping
> your management is reading this and merely because of this they'll award you.
> I cannot blame you -- how many of them read C code or specs...  I mean, even
> "the community" has said "no" to specs.  All you're doing is just playing
> your political game, spreading FUD.

My only response is from SNL:  hear me now and believe me later.

I can only repeat the truth, and eventually (hope) you'll get it.


> And what "process" are you talking about?  Do you have any idea the
> _amazement_ people get when learing that Linux is going to implement
> showing all phys on the domain in sysfs...?  Do you have any idea
> the effort in keeping customers happy when the whims of "the community"
> change on an a hourly basis (as the community is learning)?  Shall I give
> examples?
> 
> As to your reply above:
> Jeff, not so according to people I work with on a daily basis from all
> over the world.
> 
> When you said in your email:
> 
> On Oct 21, 2005, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox> wrote:
> 
>>We have plenty of specs.  It's called source code.
> 
> 
> That pretty much seals it.

Shockingly, through all this stuff that annoys you, Linux is a wild and 
unqualified success.  ;-)

Linux is organic.  Its not cleanly laid out.  Its not specified in some 
document.  Linux is result of evolution as "nature" as dictated.  This 
drives some people nuts, but at the end of the day, it _works_.

	Jeff