From: Tejun <htejun@gmail.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regarding ordered-tag support.
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:10:14 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EA17E6.4000800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1139413766.3003.19.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>
James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 15:40 +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
>>Now that new ordered implementation is in the mainline, we can properly
>>use ordered-tag during barrier sequence. As noted in the barrier doc,
>>the problem with the current SCSI midlayer is that scsi_request_fn() is
>>not atomic w.r.t. q->queuelock, so even if ordered-tag requests leave
>>request queue in the correct order, they can be reordered while they are
>>being issued by SCSI midlayer.
>
>
> Unfortunately, though, this is only half the problem.
>
> The other half is busy/queue_full processing and error recovery
>
> For the first: busy/queue_full processing, the issue is that when we
> send out a command, we could get a BUSY or QUEUE_FULL return which comes
> back to us via IRQ context. Unfortunately, we could have multiple
> commands that do this and a command will be accepted as soon as the busy
> condition alleviates, so we could see say two commands go down in order,
> the first one will get BUSY, the second is accepted and only then do we
> get the IRQ that says BUSY to the first ... now we have out of order
> execution.
Oh... I see. How many drivers do that? I can't think of good reasons
to report BUSY via IRQ for simpler transports (SATA/SPI). Maybe enable
ordered-tag selectively?
>
> For the second: Depending on the mode page (the QErr bit of the
> queueing page), most devices fail only a single command. We can set the
> QErr bit to return every command after the failing one (thus ensuring
> execution order), but the error handler would have to take them all back
> and resort them for submission.
Actually blk layer will do the sorting part (this is what req->ordcolor
is for). Block drivers are only required to not successfully complete
later requests while retrying earlier ones, so setting QErr and retrying
all on-the-fly requests should do it (no EH code change).
> I think the first problem has to be solved before we can turn on ordered
> tag based barriers. I'm ambivalent on the second; we could probably
> mark ordered tag based barriers as "caveat emptor" while we work on the
> EH problem in parallel.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-08 16:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-08 6:40 Regarding ordered-tag support Tejun Heo
2006-02-08 15:49 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 16:10 ` Tejun [this message]
2006-02-08 16:25 ` James Smart
2006-02-08 16:57 ` Tejun
2006-02-08 17:07 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 17:18 ` Tejun
2006-02-08 17:27 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 18:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-09 4:12 ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-09 17:20 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-10 0:45 ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-08 16:26 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 16:22 ` James Smart
2006-02-08 20:50 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 20:59 ` James Bottomley
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