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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	James.Smart@Emulex.Com,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regarding ordered-tag support.
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:45:16 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EBE21C.2020803@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1139505635.3275.43.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>

Hello, James.

James Bottomley wrote:
> 
> The fact that tasks can proceed in parallel, only the command components
> individual linked tasks must be serialised. so it supports the TCQ
> paradigm.
> 
> Really, also, linked tasks is exactly what a JFS wants because most of
> the updates that would be linked are something like update log entry;
> modify metadata (or data); remove log entry.
> 

I see your point, so it's not really a barrier anymore, but a sequence
of ordered writes with an intervening flush independent of other
unrelated writes.  Some random thoughts...

* All writes in the ordered sequence will have to be done sequentially,
but unrelated writes are not affected.  This can be overall gain.

* Can be implemented in block layer proper without using SCSI linked
task (probably with separate ->ordered_requests queue).  What would be
the advantage of SCSI linked task?

* As it's finer grained than wholesale barrier, FS layer will need to
pay more attention.

Thanks for the explanation.  :-)

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-10  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-08  6:40 Regarding ordered-tag support Tejun Heo
2006-02-08 15:49 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 16:10   ` Tejun
2006-02-08 16:25     ` James Smart
2006-02-08 16:57       ` Tejun
2006-02-08 17:07         ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 17:18           ` Tejun
2006-02-08 17:27             ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 18:04               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-09  4:12                 ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-09 17:20                   ` James Bottomley
2006-02-10  0:45                     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2006-02-08 16:26     ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 16:22   ` James Smart
2006-02-08 20:50     ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 20:59       ` James Bottomley

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