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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	jejb@SteelEye.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix up request buffer reference in various scsi drivers
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:17:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4488315D.9040001@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1149774847.3436.11.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>

James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 09:26 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 07:37 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>> False statement, for libata.
>>> Could you amplify this statement, please ... I looked through the head
>>> of libata-dev and it seems that these are still the only two bufflen
>>> uses, which still do look obviously wrong ... I don't see where the
>>> problem in libata with this is?
>> Christoph's false statement is:  "Using the buffer and bufflen fields 
>> means they do very broken things in error handling."
>>
>> libata does not do "very broken things in error handling."
> 
> OK ... let me explain what we're doing a bit.  One of the things that
> has been going on for quite a while is that Intel (Ken Chen) has
> analyses showing that allocation clearing and freeing of the scsi_cmnd
> structure is a drag on the fast path.  This is part of the drive to slim
> it down (i.e. get rid of a lot of the fields that are only used in eh).

OK.

Since libata does EH differently than all other SCSI drivers, it 
certainly makes sense to CC the appropriate maintainers.


>>>> Please CC the author (me) or linux-ide, at least, when you touch
>>>> libata.
>>> The tradition is that for infrastructure changes like this, particularly
>>> ones that are trivial, as this appears to be, you simply copy the scsi
>>> list and don't have to sweep up the individual maintainers of each
>>> driver.
>> This is apparently an EH-related patch, and libata uses SCSI EH very 
>> differently from all other drivers.  In this case, Christoph's "very 
>> broken" justification is clearly inaccurate, and thus a CC is obviously 
>> warranted.
>>
>> Also, I remind people constantly of this, so I'm sure you and Christoph 
>> have heard the request before.
>>
>> 	Jeff, the one who forwards to linux-scsi when others forget
> 
> I appreciate that for changes you want to make to SCSI.  However, this
> particular patch touches seventeen separately maintained pieces of code
> within the SCSI subsystem, only one of which is libata.  I'm really
> reluctant to change the policy in this regard ... it's a policy we
> copied from lkml ... that for sweeping infrastructure changes we only
> send it to the list and don't have to work out who all the maintainers
> are.

If the submittor is under the impression that libata's error handling is 
"very broken", I would appreciate a clarification.  Otherwise, one must 
assume that the submittor should have CC'd linux-ide and relevant 
maintainers, because they do not understand the code they are patching.

What _precisely_ is broken, given that libata does all its own error 
handling, and ignores scsi_unjam_host() ?

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-08 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-03 11:21 [PATCH] fix up request buffer reference in various scsi drivers Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-08 11:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-08 13:01   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-06-08 13:06   ` James Bottomley
2006-06-08 13:26     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-08 13:54       ` James Bottomley
2006-06-08 14:17         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-06-08 14:35           ` James Bottomley
2006-06-08 14:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-08 17:40 ` James Bottomley
2006-06-08 17:46   ` Christoph Hellwig

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