From: James Smart <James.Smart@Emulex.Com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [Last Rites] fc transport: extensions for fast fail and dev loss
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:17:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44DB5C1E.7070302@emulex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060809173643.GA22969@infradead.org>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> at (b): Minimally, we should terminate all active i/o requests marked
>> as type REQ_FASTFAIL. From an api perspective, driver support
>> for this is optional. And we must also assume that there will
>> be implementations which have to abort all i/o in order to
>> terminate those marked REQ_FASTFAIL. Is this acceptable ?
>> (it meets the "always" condition above)
>>
>> Q: so far we've limited the io to those w/ REQ_FASTFAIL.
>> Would we ever want to allow a user to fast fail all i/o
>> regardless of the request flags ? (in case they flags
>> weren't getting set on all the i/o the user wanted to
>> see fail ?)
>
> I think we should fail all. It's not like an unprivilegued process could
> request FASTFAIL. The administrator should know what she/he is doing.
Good. All it is.
>>> - fast_loss_time recommendation:
>>> In discussing how a admin should set dev_loss_tmo in a multipathing
>>> environment, it became apparent that we expected the admin to know
>>> a lot. They had to know the transport type, what the minimum setting
>>> can be that still survives normal link bouncing, and they may even
>>> have to know about device specifics. For iSCSI, the proper loss time
>>> may vary widely from session to session.
>>>
>>> This attribute is an exported "recommendation" by the LLDD and transport
>>> on what the lowest setting for dev_loss_tmo should be for a multipathing
>>> environment. Thus, the admin only needs to cat this attribute to obtain
>>> the value to echo into dev_loss_tmo.
>> The only objection was from Christoph - wanting a utility to get/set this
>> stuff. However, the counter was this attribute was still meaningful, as it
>> was the conduit to obtain a recommendation from the transport/LLD.
>>
>> So - I assume this proceeds as is - with a change in it's description.
>
> I must say I'm still not happy with this. It's really policy that we
> try to keep out of the kernel.
Ok. I'll drop this. I don't think it was that important for FC. Mike Christie
had some better arguments for iSCSI.
-- james
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-10 16:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-20 18:45 [RFC] fc transport: extensions for fast fail and dev loss James Smart
2006-07-25 17:12 ` Mike Christie
2006-07-25 18:49 ` James Smart
2006-07-25 21:15 ` Michael Reed
2006-07-26 3:33 ` James Smart
2006-07-26 9:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-26 16:35 ` James Smart
2006-08-08 17:54 ` [RFC] [Last Rites] " James Smart
2006-08-08 21:56 ` Michael Reed
2006-08-08 22:15 ` Michael Reed
2006-08-09 15:31 ` Michael Reed
2006-08-10 16:38 ` James Smart
2006-08-09 17:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-10 16:17 ` James Smart [this message]
2006-08-10 20:01 ` Mike Christie
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