From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Kai Makisara <Kai.Makisara@kolumbus.fi>
Cc: James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 2/2] SCSI: add scsi_device->retries
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:31:28 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4560E950.9000209@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611200001230.4946@kai.makisara.local>
Hello,
Kai Makisara wrote:
>> * st uses three retry limits - MAX_RETRIES, MAX_WRITE_RETRIES and
>> MAX_READY_RETRIES, which are all zero. This patch only converts
>> MAX_RETRIES to sdev->retries. Defining WRITE and READY retries in
>> terms of sdev->retries would make more sense.
>>
> I am neither acking nor naking this now. The patch does not change st
> behavior but moves part of the retry strategy out of the driver. (Which is
> also good because it makes one of the retry limits user changeable.)
>
> Combining all retry counts is something that may not be a good thing.
> Below is justification why st has three different retry limits.
>
> For some devices one number of retries is not perfect for all functions.
>
> The firmware of tape devices usually retries quite thoroughly before
> returning error. This is why the default zero applies to most cases.
>
> MAX_WRITE_RETRIES is separate from MAX_RETRIES because a plausible
> strategy might be (maybe not any more) to allow no retries for write but
> allow retries for reading and repositioning. The writes should fail
> directly so that the minimum number of marginal errors will be written.
> The reads can be retried so that even marginal data can be recovered.
> (Note that this may lead to tape positioning errors and may not be a
> good strategy in all cases.)
>
> MAX_READY_RETRIES is used for commands that don't move the tape. This is a
> situation where retrying is probably harmless.
I see. Then, how about adding and initializing STp->write_retries and
STp->ready_retries according to SDp->retries (some reasonable default
value, say write_retries is always zero while ready_retries is round up
of retries * 1.1) and export both through sysfs? That will give lower
level primitive control as other ULDs do and also allow users to
configure each timeout separately if necessary.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-19 23:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-19 12:51 [PATCH RESEND 1/2] SCSI: use scsi_device->timeout consistently Tejun Heo
2006-11-19 12:52 ` [PATCH RESEND 2/2] SCSI: add scsi_device->retries Tejun Heo
2006-11-19 22:32 ` Kai Makisara
2006-11-19 23:31 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2006-11-20 21:42 ` Kai Makisara
2006-11-19 22:01 ` [PATCH RESEND 1/2] SCSI: use scsi_device->timeout consistently Kai Makisara
2006-11-19 23:26 ` Tejun Heo
2006-11-20 21:25 ` Kai Makisara
2006-11-21 2:14 ` Tejun Heo
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