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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	bhalevy@panasas.com, hch@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, michaelc@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] add bidi support for block pc requests
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:59:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <468FC664.5050209@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1183822933.3408.19.camel@localhost.localdomain>

James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 11:27 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> LIBATA_MAX_PRD is the maximum number of DMA scatter/gather elements 
>> permitted by the HBA's DMA engine, for a single ATA command.

> Then it's the wrong parameter you're setting:  phys_segments is what you
> have going into a dma_map_sg() but hw_segments is what you end up after
> it (mathemtaically, the mapping never splits segments, so hw_segments <=
> phys_segments always, but it's still the wrong way to bound this); so if
> you want to limit the SG elements in the HBA, you should set hw_segments
> not phys_segments (which is what the sg_tablesize parameter of the host
> structure corresponds to).

Honestly I'm betting the code is a result of paranoia^H^H^Hconservatism 
on my part:  setting every DMA and segment limit I can find, in the 
hopes that somehow, somewhere, that information will get filtered down 
to the IOMMU and whatnot.  :)

Given what you say above, and the fact that I set sg_tablesize, 
presumably Boaz's patch to remove phys_segment limiting in libata-scsi 
is the right thing to do.  Your knowledge in this area is most likely 
stronger than mine.


> However, I suspect this has to do with our iommu problem, doesn't it?
> The IOMMU may merge the segments beyond your 64k DMA boundary, so you
> need to split them again ... in that case you need phys_segments
> bounded, not hw_segments?

This is why I set every segment limitation I could find :)  And then Ben 
tells me IOMMU may ignore all of that anyway, and so I have code to 
split inside libata as well :)

I just know what IDE needs:  S/G ent shouldn't cross 64k boundary, nor 
exceed 64k in size.  The maximum number of S/G ents is actually a guess. 
  Hard data is tough to come by.  Some DMA engines will cycle through 
all of memory until they hit a stop bit.  Others have limits yet to be 
discovered.  :)

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-07 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-08  2:25 [PATCH v2] add bidi support for block pc requests FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-08 18:53 ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-08 20:01   ` James Bottomley
2007-05-09  7:46     ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-09 10:52       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-09 13:58         ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-09 14:54           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-09 14:55           ` James Bottomley
2007-05-09 16:54             ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-10  6:53               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-10  7:45                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-10 12:37                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-10 13:01                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-10 15:10                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-05-10 15:48                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-11 16:26                       ` James Bottomley
2007-05-16 17:29       ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-16 17:53         ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-16 18:06           ` James Bottomley
2007-05-16 18:13             ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-17  8:46               ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-17  2:57           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-17  5:48             ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-17  5:59               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-17  8:49                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-17 11:12                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-17 17:37                     ` Benny Halevy
2007-05-24 16:37                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-24 16:46                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-24 16:47                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-24 16:59                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-17 11:29                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-17 13:27                   ` James Bottomley
2007-05-17 14:00                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-05-17 14:11                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-05-17 15:49                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-06-01 20:21                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-03  7:45                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-06-03 13:17                               ` James Bottomley
2007-07-07 15:27                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-07 15:42                                   ` James Bottomley
2007-07-07 16:59                                     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-05-09 10:49     ` FUJITA Tomonori

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