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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <Jens.Axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Actually using the sg table/chain code
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:09:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <478CDABB.1080208@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1200412337.9273.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Jan 15 2008 at 17:52 +0200, James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> I thought, now we had this new shiny code to increase the scatterlist
> table size I'd try it out.  It turns out there's a pretty vast block
> conspiracy that prevents us going over 128 entries in a scatterlist.
> 
> The first problems are in SCSI:  The host parameters sg_tablesize and
> max_sectors are used to set the queue limits max_hw_segments and
> max_sectors respectively (the former is the maximum number of entries
> the HBA can tolerate in a scatterlist for each transaction, the latter
> is a total transfer cap on the maxiumum number of 512 byte sectors).
> The default settings, assuming the HBA doesn't vary them are
> sg_tablesize at SG_ALL (255) and max_sectors at SCSI_DEFAULT_MAX_SECTORS
> (1024).  A quick calculation shows the latter is actually 512k or 128
> pages (at 4k pages), hence the persistent 128 entry limit.
> 
> However, raising max_sectors and sg_tablesize together still doesn't
> help:  There's actually an insidious limit sitting in the block layer as
> well.  This is what blk_queue_max_sectors says:
> 
> void blk_queue_max_sectors(struct request_queue *q, unsigned int
> max_sectors)
> {
> 	if ((max_sectors << 9) < PAGE_CACHE_SIZE) {
> 		max_sectors = 1 << (PAGE_CACHE_SHIFT - 9);
> 		printk("%s: set to minimum %d\n", __FUNCTION__, max_sectors);
> 	}
> 
> 	if (BLK_DEF_MAX_SECTORS > max_sectors)
> 		q->max_hw_sectors = q->max_sectors = max_sectors;
>  	else {
> 		q->max_sectors = BLK_DEF_MAX_SECTORS;
> 		q->max_hw_sectors = max_sectors;
> 	}
> }
> 
> So it imposes a maximum possible setting of BLK_DEF_MAX_SECTORS which is
> defined in blkdev.h to .... 1024, thus also forcing the queue down to
> 128 scatterlist entries.
> 
> Once I raised this limit as well, I was able to transfer over 128
> scatterlist elements during benchmark test runs of normal I/O (actually
> kernel compiles seem best, they hit 608 scatterlist entries).
> 
> So my question, is there any reason not to raise this limit to something
> large (like 65536) or even eliminate it altogether?
> 
> James
> 
I have an old branch here where I've swiped through the scsi drivers just
to remove the SG_ALL limit. Unfortunately some drivers mean laterally
255 when using SG_ALL. So I passed driver by driver and carfully inspected
the code to change it to something driver specific if they really meant
255.

I have used sg_tablesize = ~0; to indicate, I don't care any will do,
and some driver constant if there is a real limit. Though removing
SG_ALL at the end.

Should I freshen up this branch and send it.

Boaz


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-15 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-15 15:52 Actually using the sg table/chain code James Bottomley
2008-01-15 16:09 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2008-01-15 16:49   ` James Bottomley
2008-01-15 17:35     ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-01-16 14:01       ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-01-16 15:09         ` James Bottomley
2008-01-16 16:11           ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-01-16 16:37             ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-01-16 16:46               ` James Bottomley
2008-01-15 19:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-15 20:14   ` James Bottomley
2008-01-16 15:06 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-16 15:47   ` James Bottomley
2008-01-16 16:08     ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-22 16:13     ` Mike Christie

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