From: Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>
To: sekharan@us.ibm.com
Cc: andmike@us.ibm.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
asson_ronald@emc.com, James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com,
device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
Benoit_Arthur@emc.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com, agk@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] scsi_dh: add EMC Clariion device handler
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:47:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <480E5D08.3000905@cs.wisc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208898559.1025.191.camel@chandra-ubuntu>
Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 12:14 -0500, Mike Christie wrote:
>> Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:29 -0500, Mike Christie wrote:
>>>> Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +static int send_cmd(struct scsi_device *sdev, int cmd)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + struct request *rq = get_req(sdev, cmd);
>>>>> +
>>>>> + if (!rq)
>>>>> + return SCSI_DH_RES_TEMP_UNAVAIL;
>>>>> +
>>>>> + return blk_execute_rq(sdev->request_queue, NULL, rq, 1);
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>> My only concerns are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. EMC and HP need to send a command to every device to transition them.
>>>> Because we do blk_execute_rq from the dm multipath workqueue we can now
>>>> only failover/failback for a couple devices at a time.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if this is a big deal, because this the error handler path
>>>> so it is going to be slower than the normal path. But it seems like
>>> Yes. But...
>>>
>>> pg_init() due to failover/failback will be sent only when I/O is
>>> sent/resent to a multipath device, isn't it ? and we don't expect I/Os
>>> to be sent to all the devices at the same time (all the time), do we ?
>>>
>> I am not sure what you mean by all the time, because I am talking about
>
> What I meant was that we do not expect I/Os to be sent to all the
> devices at all the times (pg_init will be sent only when I/Os fails on a
> path, right ?).
>
> Sorry for not being clear.
>
No problem.
>> failover times above. And for failover I think I said yes in the
>> previous mail. For EMC we are currently sending failover commands to all
>> the devices at the same time, because EMC does not do the controller
>> failover RDAC does.
>
> RDAC doesn't do controller failover. It also does per lun failover.
>
Oh yeah, I forgot.
>>> So, as you pointed, is it a big deal ? :)
>>>
>> In the previous mail I specifically said users might care, because they
>> are picky about failover times, real 3m39.728s
> user 0m4.135s
> sys 0m14.536s
>
>> so the answer is to your question is
>> what I said before, maybe :) I said I am not sure, because I do not have
>> any numbers for the failover times.
>
> Since RDAC also does the failover per device (as is the case with EMC),
> I ran tests on about 49 luns. I ran disktest on all the disks at the
Thanks.
> same time and disabled/enabled the port to the preferred path to
> generate failover and failback.
>
> Let me know what do you think.
>
> Here are the results:
> Tests run in an idle system. With 49 luns and the following script:
> ******************************************************
> for i in `ls -1 /dev/mapper/mpath*`
> do
> disktest $i -L 4000 -t 100 -P X &
> sleep 1
> done
>
> wait
> ******************************************************
> Simple Run:
>
> with patchset: 2.6.25-mm1:
> real 3m30.122s real 3m29.746s
> user 0m4.069s user 0m4.099s
> sys 0m14.876s sys 0m14.535s
> -----------------------------------------------
Is this just a boot up test or a test just running IO but no
failback/failover?
>
> Failover Run:
>
> with patchset: 2.6.25-mm1:
> real 5m18.875s real 5m31.741s
> user 0m4.069s user 0m3.883s
> sys 0m14.838s sys 0m13.822s
Ehh, I have no idea if this is good or bad. Does it mean it is talking
13 more seconds to complete?
Have you seen the type of thread on dm-devel or the iscsi list where
people are concerned with getting the time the failure is detected to
the time IO is running on a new path down from something like 10 to 5
seconds. One time the iscsi driver did not implement time2wait correctly
and by fixing it we shaved only 2 seconds off and users were very happy
with the extra 2 seconds. We added the nop timer stuff so we could get
faster failovers. We have the fast io fail tmo so we can speed up the
process even more. Shaving off a second here or there is really nitpicky
and if I were you I would give me the middle finger :) It just seems
like people expect better performance from this type of error.
If my comment is too nitpicky then I am fine with ignoring this for now.
We just have to fix the emc short/long tress pass code then. I added
another EMC guy to the thread so he can ping the other EMC devs to get
going (I had sent them questions on how to handle it and have not got a
response).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-22 21:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-16 1:18 [PATCH 0/7] scsi_dh: Move hardware handlers from dm to SCSI Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 1:18 ` [PATCH 1/7] scsi_dh: add skeleton for SCSI Device Handlers Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 1:18 ` [PATCH 2/7] scsi_dh: add lsi rdac device handler Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 1:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] scsi_dh: add hp sw " Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 1:18 ` [PATCH 4/7] scsi_dh: add EMC Clariion " Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 16:29 ` Mike Christie
2008-04-16 23:59 ` [dm-devel] " Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-17 17:14 ` Mike Christie
2008-04-22 21:09 ` [dm-devel] " Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-22 21:47 ` Mike Christie [this message]
2008-04-22 21:50 ` Mike Christie
2008-04-22 23:45 ` [dm-devel] " Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 1:18 ` [PATCH 5/7] scsi_dh: Use SCSI device handler in dm-multipath Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 1:18 ` [PATCH 6/7] scsi_dh: Remove hardware handlers from dm Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-16 1:19 ` [PATCH 7/7] scsi_dh: Remove hardware handler infrastructure " Chandra Seetharaman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-17 22:22 [PATCH 0/7] scsi_dh: Move hardware handlers from dm to SCSI Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-17 22:23 ` [PATCH 4/7] scsi_dh: add EMC Clariion device handler Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-17 21:18 [PATCH 0/7] scsi_dh: Move hardware handlers from dm to SCSI Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-17 21:19 ` [PATCH 4/7] scsi_dh: add EMC Clariion device handler Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-01 22:51 [PATCH 0/7] scsi_dh: Move hardware handlers from dm to SCSI Chandra Seetharaman
2008-04-01 22:51 ` [PATCH 4/7] scsi_dh: add EMC Clariion device handler Chandra Seetharaman
2008-03-11 1:33 [PATCH 0/7] scsi_dh: Move hardware handlers from dm to SCSI Chandra Seetharaman
2008-03-11 1:33 ` [PATCH 4/7] scsi_dh: add EMC Clariion device handler Chandra Seetharaman
2008-02-28 1:08 [PATCH 0/7] Move hardware handlers from dm layer to SCSI layer Chandra Seetharaman
2008-02-28 1:08 ` [PATCH 4/7] scsi_dh: add EMC Clariion device handler Chandra Seetharaman
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