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From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [RFC]: Support for zero-copy TCP transmit of user space data
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:35:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <494A97DD.7080503@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4947FA1C.2090509@vlnb.net>

Hello linux-mm,

Recently I submitted a new SCSI target framework (SCST) and 4 target 
drivers for it for the first iteration of review and comments. See 
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/12/10/245 for details.

An iSCSI target driver iSCSI-SCST was a part of the patchset 
(http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/12/10/293). For it a nice optimization to 
have TCP zero-copy transmit of user space data was implemented. Patch, 
implementing this optimization was also sent in the patchset, see 
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/12/10/296.

I would like to ask, if the approach used in this patch can be 
acceptable from your point of view? I understand, that extending struct 
page is a very much undesirable, but, from other side:

  - This approach is very simple and straightforward. The patch is only 
309 lines long, including comments. All other alternative 
implementations would be at least an order of magnitude more complicated.

  - Related kernel config option 
TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION should be disabled by 
default in general distro kernels, so the would be no harm at all from 
this patch. ISCSI-SCST can work without this patch or with 
TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION option disabled, although 
with user space device handlers it will work considerably worse. Only 
few distro kernels users need an iSCSI target and only few among such 
users need to use user space device handlers. People who need both iSCSI 
target *and* fast working user space device handlers would simply enable 
that option and rebuild the kernel. Rejecting this patch provides much 
worse alternative: those people would also have to *patch* the kernel at 
first, only then enable that option, then rebuild the kernel.

  - Although usage of struct page to keep network related pointer might 
look as a layering violation, it isn't. I wrote in 
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/12/15/190 why.

Thanks,
Vlad

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-18 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-10 18:26 [PATCH][RFC 0/23] New SCSI target framework (SCST) and 4 target drivers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:28 ` [PATCH][RFC 1/23]: SCST public headers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:30 ` [PATCH][RFC 2/23]: SCST core Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:12   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-12-11 17:28     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 21:09       ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-12-12 19:24         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-12 21:50           ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]             ` <20081212230523.GB4775@ghostprotocols.net>
2008-12-13  1:25               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-13  1:27                 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-13 14:46             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-14  0:35               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-16 21:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 22:13                   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-16 22:22                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 23:46                       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-18 11:45                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-20 13:06                   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-23 19:11                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-27 11:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-30 17:13                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-30 21:03                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2008-12-30 21:35                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-12-10 18:34 ` [PATCH][RFC 3/23]: SCST core docs Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:36 ` [PATCH][RFC 4/23]: SCST debug support Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:37 ` [PATCH][RFC 5/23]: SCST /proc interface Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 20:23   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-12 19:23     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:39 ` [PATCH][RFC 6/23]: SCST SGV cache Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:40 ` [PATCH][RFC 7/23]: SCST integration into the kernel Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:42 ` [PATCH][RFC 8/23]: SCST pass-through backend handlers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:43 ` [PATCH][RFC 9/23]: SCST virtual disk backend handler Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:44 ` [PATCH][RFC 10/23]: SCST user space " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:46 ` [PATCH][RFC 11/23]: Makefile for SCST backend handlers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:47 ` [PATCH][RFC 12/23]: Patch to add necessary support for SCST pass-through Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:49 ` [PATCH][RFC 13/23]: Export of alloc_io_context() function Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 13:34   ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-11 18:17     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 18:41       ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-11 19:00         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 19:06           ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-12 19:16             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:50 ` [PATCH][RFC 14/23]: Necessary functionality in qla2xxx driver to support target mode Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:51 ` [PATCH][RFC 15/23]: QLogic target driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:54 ` [PATCH][RFC 16/23]: Documentation for " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:55 ` [PATCH][RFC 17/23]: InfiniBand SRP " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:57 ` [PATCH][RFC 18/23]: Documentation for " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:58 ` [PATCH][RFC 19/23]: scst_local " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:00 ` [PATCH][RFC 20/23]: Documentation for scst_local driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:01 ` [PATCH][RFC 21/23]: iSCSI target driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 22:55   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-11 22:59     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-12 19:26     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-13 10:03       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-13 10:11         ` Bart Van Assche
2008-12-13 10:16           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-13 10:27             ` Bart Van Assche
2008-12-13 15:01             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-13 14:57         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:02 ` [PATCH][RFC 22/23]: Documentation for iSCSI-SCST Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:04 ` [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: Support for zero-copy TCP transmit of user space data Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 21:45   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-11 18:16     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 19:12       ` James Bottomley
2008-12-12 19:25         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-12 19:37           ` James Bottomley
2008-12-15 17:58             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-15 23:18               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-16 18:57                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-18 18:35                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
2008-12-18 18:43                     ` [RFC]: " David M. Lloyd
2008-12-19 17:37                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 19:07                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-19 19:17                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 19:27                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-19 21:58                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-23 19:11                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 11:27                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-19 17:38                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 18:00                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-19 17:57                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-16 16:00     ` [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: " Bart Van Assche
2008-12-16 17:41       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-19 20:21   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-19 22:04     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-19 22:21       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-19 22:33         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-20  1:56           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20  2:02             ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20  6:14               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20  6:51                 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20  7:43                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20  8:10                     ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20 10:32                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-20 19:39                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-22  0:43                           ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-23 19:14                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-23 19:16                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-23 21:38                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-24 14:37                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-24 14:44                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-24 17:46                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-24 18:08                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-30 17:37                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-30 21:35                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-23 19:13     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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