From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Benny Halevy <bhalevy@panasas.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
open-osd development <osd-dev@open-osd.org>,
linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Avishay Traeger <avishay@gmail.com>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [osd-dev] [PATCH 7/9] exofs: mkexofs
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:24:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <496C9617.80701@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <496C9109.5040803@panasas.com>
Benny Halevy wrote:
> IMO the main advantage of moving block allocation down to the OSD target
> is more apparent with distributed file systems a-la pNFS over objects
> where paralleling that task is a key for scalable performance.
>
> The thing is that the target needs to implement its own mapping from
> object logical offsets into disk blocks and this is usually done
> using some kind of a (possibly trimmed down) local file system.
> Therefore the I/O performance of a single OSD is likely to be similar
> to a single file server's.
Well, modern SATA devices are already mini-filesystems internally, when
you consider logical block remapping etc.
And the claim by drive research guys at the filesystem/storage summit
was that OSD offered the potential to better optimize storage based on
access/usage patterns.
(of course, whether or not reality bears out this guess is another question)
> I can understand representing a single object as a block device (although I
> think that using a file for that should be good enough and easier) but
> why representing the whole OSD as a block device? The OSD holds partitions
> and objects each with attributes and OSD security related support. Hence
> representing that in a namespace using a filesystem seems straight forward.
I am actually considering writing a simple "osdblk" driver, that would
represent a single object as a block device.
This would NOT replace exofs or other OSD filesystems, but it would be
nice to have, and it will give me more experience with OSDs.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-13 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <20081229121423.efde9d06.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2008-12-31 15:19 ` [PATCH 7/9] exofs: mkexofs Boaz Harrosh
2008-12-31 15:57 ` James Bottomley
2009-01-01 9:22 ` [osd-dev] " Benny Halevy
2009-01-01 9:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-01 14:23 ` Benny Halevy
2009-01-01 14:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-01 18:12 ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-01 23:26 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-02 7:14 ` Benny Halevy
2009-01-04 15:20 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-01-04 15:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-12 18:12 ` James Bottomley
2009-01-12 19:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-12 19:56 ` James Bottomley
2009-01-12 20:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-12 23:25 ` James Bottomley
2009-01-13 13:03 ` [osd-dev] " Benny Halevy
2009-01-13 13:24 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-01-13 13:32 ` Benny Halevy
2009-01-13 13:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-13 14:03 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 14:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-13 16:14 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 17:21 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-01-21 18:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-21 18:44 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-01-12 22:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-06 8:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-12-31 19:25 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-01 13:33 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-01-02 22:46 ` James Bottomley
2009-01-04 8:59 ` Boaz Harrosh
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