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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: avishay@gmail.com, jeff@garzik.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, osd-dev@open-osd.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] exofs: Kbuild, Headers and osd utils
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:29:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49993FF2.9050200@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090216183750H.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>

FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:19:21 +0200
> Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Also looking
>>>> ahead I will have RAID 0, 1, 5, and 6 on objects of different devices. bio
>>>> is the perfect collector for memory information in this situation.
>>> You will add such features to exofs, handling multiple devices
>>> internally?
>>>
>> Multiple objects on Multiple devices, Yes.
> 
> I thought that exofs is kinda example (reference) file system.
> 
> Nobody has seen your code. Let's discuss when we have the
> code. Over-designing for what we've not seen is not a good idea.
> 

Thanks for the insults, and high credit ;)

Yes it's "kinda example (reference) file system" of a pNFS-objects
file system. What can I do life is tough.

> 
>>>> exofs is not the first and only file system who is using bios. Proof of
>>>> the matter is that block exports a bio submit routine.
>>> Seems that exofs just passes pages and the ULD sends a SCSI command
>>> including these pages. I don't see how exofs needs to handle bio
>>> directly.
>>>
>> How do you propose to collect these pages? and keep them without allocating
>> an extra list? without pre-allocating a struct request? and without re-inventing
>> the bio structure?
> 
> I don't think that allocating an extra list (or something) to keep
> them hurts performance. We can talk about it when you have the real
> performance results.

So you are the one that starts to invent the wheel here. I thought I was
the one that does that, only you only called me by names, because you never showed
me where.

But please only answer one question for me: Please don't write back if you do not
answer this question:

Why do other filesystems allow to use bios? are they going to stop? Who is going
to remove that?

And as I said, I am going to remove it for now, please be patient. You have never
herd from me that I refuse to do it, did you?

Boaz

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-16 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <49902A9E.3070002@panasas.com>
     [not found] ` <1234185129-31858-1-git-send-email-bharrosh@panasas.com>
2009-02-16  4:18   ` [PATCH 1/8] exofs: Kbuild, Headers and osd utils FUJITA Tomonori
2009-02-16  8:49     ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-16  9:00       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-02-16  9:19         ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-16  9:27           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-02-16 10:19             ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-16 11:05               ` pNFS rant (was Re: [PATCH 1/8] exofs: Kbuild, Headers and osd utils) Jeff Garzik
2009-02-16 12:45                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-16 15:50                 ` James Bottomley
2009-02-16 16:27                   ` Benny Halevy
2009-02-16 16:23                 ` Benny Halevy
2009-02-16  9:38           ` [PATCH 1/8] exofs: Kbuild, Headers and osd utils FUJITA Tomonori
2009-02-16 10:29             ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2009-02-17  0:20               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-02-17  8:10                 ` [osd-dev] " Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-27  8:09                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-03-01 10:43                     ` Boaz Harrosh

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