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From: Douglas Gilbert <dgilbert@interlog.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	SCSI development list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bugs in scsi_vpd_inquiry()
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:53:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8096EF.6010508@interlog.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq17hxbfvf9.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>

Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>>>>>> "Alan" == Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:
> 
> Alan,
> 
>>>> data always to be accurate may not be a good idea.  I'm considering
>>>> adding a "restrict_to_MS_usb" flag to the host template, to
>>>> indicate that commands shouldn't be sent unless some version of
>>>> Windows uses them when talking to USB devices -- do you think that
>>>> could work?
>>> Not really my area of expertise.
> 
> Alan> Okay.  Maybe Martin has some thoughts on it.
> 
> First of all we're not going to send EVPD=1 out to devices reporting
> SCSI_SPC_2 or lower anymore, making some of this discussion moot in the
> short term.
> 
> But as I have alluded to in the past we do have a conflict brewing
> because the switch to drives with 4KB physical blocks will mean USB
> bridges will have to get smarter.  And that in turn will mean adhering
> (*gasp*) to the standard instead of firmware writers flipping bits until
> Windows stops crashing.  Windows 7 does in fact query drives about
> alignment, block sizes, etc.  But I'm not sure how true that is for the
> Windows USB storage stack.

It would be interesting to know if Windows 7 is pushing
UAS (USB attached SCSI) [latest draft at www.t10.org is
uas-r02.pdf].

"USB Attached SCSI is a new generation of USB Transport
  Standards. This standard supports the following
  features in support of USB-20 and future USB
  specifications:
     a)  does not interfere with the USB Mass Storage Class
         (MSC) bulk-only transport;
     b)  mechanism to send commands associated with any T10
         standard to a USB device;
     c)  support for queuing in the protocol;
     d)  support for autosense;
     e)  compliance with SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4)
         or later; and
     f)  other capabilities."

It is at the letter ballot stage at t10.


Doug Gilbert



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-10 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-10 14:41 Bugs in scsi_vpd_inquiry() Alan Stern
2009-08-10 14:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-10 15:32   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-10 17:08     ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-08-10 20:13       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-10 20:49         ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-08-10 21:14           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-10 22:47             ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-08-11 14:35               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-10 21:53       ` Douglas Gilbert [this message]
2009-08-10 22:52         ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-08-11 16:04     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-11  7:07 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-08-11 14:53   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-11 15:13     ` James Bottomley
2009-08-11 15:18       ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-08-11 15:27         ` James Bottomley
2009-08-11 15:38           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-11 15:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-11 15:59             ` James Bottomley
2009-08-11 16:14               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-11 16:24                 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-13 13:58                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-08-13 14:15                     ` James Bottomley

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