From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@de.ibm.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 18:30:05 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C03D5FD.3000202@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275318102.2823.47.camel@mulgrave.site>
On 05/31/2010 06:01 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 10:20 -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>>>>>>> "Christof" == Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@de.ibm.com> writes:
>>
>> Christof> Since the guard tags are created in Linux, it seems that the
>> Christof> data attached to the write request changes between the
>> Christof> generation in bio_integrity_generate and the call to
>> Christof> sd_prep_fn.
>>
>> Yep, known bug. Page writeback locking is messed up for buffer_head
>> users. The extNfs folks volunteered to look into this a while back but
>> I don't think they have found the time yet.
>>
>>
>> Christof> Using ext3 or ext4 instead of ext2 does not show the problem.
>>
>> Last I looked there were still code paths in ext3 and ext4 that
>> permitted pages to be changed during flight. I guess you've just been
>> lucky.
>
> Pages have always been modifiable in flight. The OS guarantees they'll
> be rewritten, so the drivers can drop them if it detects the problem.
> This is identical to the iscsi checksum issue (iscsi adds a checksum
> because it doesn't trust TCP/IP and if the checksum is generated in
> software, there's time between generation and page transmission for the
> alteration to occur). The solution in the iscsi case was not to
> complain if the page is still marked dirty.
>
And also why RAID1 and RAID4/5/6 need the data bounced. I wish VFS
would prevent data writing given a device queue flag that requests
it. So all these devices and modes could just flag the VFS/filesystems
that: "please don't allow concurrent writes, otherwise I need to copy data"
>From what Chris Mason has said before, all the mechanics are there, and it's
what btrfs is doing. Though I don't know how myself?
> James
>
Boaz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-31 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-31 11:28 Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write Christof Schmitt
2010-05-31 11:34 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-05-31 14:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-05-31 14:46 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 13:16 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-02 13:37 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-02 23:20 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-04 1:34 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-04 2:32 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-07 16:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-07 17:22 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-07 17:40 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-08 7:15 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-08 8:47 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08 8:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 14:49 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 13:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-05-31 15:01 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-31 15:30 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2010-05-31 15:49 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 16:25 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-01 13:22 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 10:30 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 10:49 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-01 13:03 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:50 ` Christof Schmitt
[not found] ` <20100601135059.GA21008@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com>
2010-06-01 13:58 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-08 7:18 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 14:26 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 13:27 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 13:33 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:40 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 13:49 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 16:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <20100601162929.GC32708@parisc-linux.org>
2010-06-01 16:47 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 16:54 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 18:09 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 18:46 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] ` <20100601184649.GE9453@laptop>
2010-06-01 19:35 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-02 3:20 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] ` <20100602032030.GF9453@laptop>
2010-06-02 13:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-02 13:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 15:46 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-03 16:27 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-04 1:46 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-04 3:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-04 2:02 ` Dave Chinner
[not found] ` <20100604020243.GE19651@dastard>
2010-06-04 15:32 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-04 1:30 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 21:07 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 22:49 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 14:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 14:32 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 14:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-03 11:20 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 12:07 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 12:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 12:46 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-09 15:58 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 13:06 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 13:23 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-23 17:59 ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-23 19:16 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-23 20:51 ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-26 12:22 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-26 17:00 ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-26 19:26 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-24 1:03 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-01 2:40 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-06-03 16:09 ` [LFS/VM TOPIC] Stable pages while IO (was Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write) Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 16:30 ` [Lsf10-pc] " J. Bruce Fields
2010-06-03 17:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-04 16:23 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-04 16:30 ` [Lsf10-pc] " J. Bruce Fields
2010-06-04 17:11 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-06 9:35 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-06 23:37 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-07 8:30 ` Boaz Harrosh
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