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From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: "Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
Cc: Dirk Meister <dmeister@uni-paderborn.de>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Chetan Loke <chetanloke@gmail.com>,
	Chetan Loke <generationgnu@yahoo.com>,
	scst-devel <scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010...
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:42:16 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C701E08.2020005@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1282256949.30453.278.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org>

Nicholas A. Bellinger, on 08/20/2010 02:29 AM wrote:
> "We will be extending the scsi_tgt_[lib,if].c mapped ring interface to
> allow TCM to access userspace backstores transparently with existing
> kernel level TCM fabric modules, and using the generic configfs fabric
> module infrastructure in target_core_fabric_configfs.c for the port and
> I_T nexus control plane just as you would with any TCM backstore
> subsystem today.
>
> Again, in open source you have to build upon what already exists and
> move forward.  The original STGT kernel<->  userspace ring abstraction
> and logic in drivers/scsi/scsi_tgt_lib.c:scsi_tgt_queue_command() ->
> scsi_tgt_uspace_send_cmd() is already going to do the vast majority of
> what is required for handling fabric I/O processing and I_T Nexus and
> Port management in kernel space with a userspace backstore.  It is
> really just a matter of allowing the STGT ring request to optionally be
> sent out to userspace as a standalone LUN instead of as a target port."

You forgot to mention one small thing. You are going to (re)use current 
STGT interface for user space backend, which in 5 years of being 
mainline has not gained any noticeable interest, because it is 
fundamentally slow. It needs a complete redesign to become fast. In 
contrast, interface provided by scst_user has just 3% overhead comparing 
with fully in-kernel backend and allows to build storage capable of 
handling 1,500,000 IOPSes (Kaminario).

Vlad

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-21 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-18 14:58 [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 15:11 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTimJGxn=5kEMH68XVWqFcYG3vpfLjLjZpFGqhG_4@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-18 15:30     ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:04   ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:18     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:50       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-19  1:18         ` jack wang
2010-08-19 21:20           ` Dirk Meister
2010-08-19 22:29             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-21 18:42               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
2010-08-21 20:25                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-24 18:08                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:43                 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22  7:39                   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-22 20:29                     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 13:47                       ` Joe Landman
2010-08-23 15:12                         ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                         ` <AANLkTim-M6dfLvJQnbieFqZCGG33E+-i+u_soCq2p9f1@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-23 16:07                           ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-23 18:03                             ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-24  7:25                               ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-24 14:43                                 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:55                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 17:51                                     ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 20:40                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 14:55                                 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
     [not found]                                 ` <4C7404C4.4040704@vlnb.net>
2010-08-24 20:31                                   ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-08-25 19:12                                     ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-16 15:05                                     ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-08-23 19:41                       ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:41                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:51                     ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 14:56                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-25 22:20                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-08-25 22:45                         ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-24 14:57                     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 19:48                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 21:23                         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-26 20:11                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-26 21:23                             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-28 17:32                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-28 20:47                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-30 20:47                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-30 21:46                                     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-02 19:38                                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-02 20:25                                         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 20:18                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 21:50                                             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 23:13                                               ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06  0:12                                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06  0:58                                                   ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06  1:34                                                     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06  5:04                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:41                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:59                                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06  4:56                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-06 10:39                                                   ` James Bottomley
2010-09-06 11:02                                                     ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-06 11:27                                                       ` James Bottomley
2010-09-06 15:26                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:47                                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:55                                                       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 22:14                                                         ` david
2010-09-07  0:44                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07  3:45                                                           ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-07  6:15                                                             ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07  6:08                                                           ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07  6:26                                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07  6:29                                                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-09-07  6:45                                                               ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07 13:20                                                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-07 20:14                                                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-07 20:14                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:16                                               ` Greg KH
2010-09-06 17:28                                           ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-06 21:52                                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-20 13:46           ` Ruben Laban
2010-08-18 17:51       ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:19   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:28   ` Joe Landman
2010-08-18 17:52     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 15:12 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-20 17:40 Ari Lemmke
2010-08-16 16:20 Fwd: Re: [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-17 20:30 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:52   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 20:43     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-21 18:51       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:38         ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22 22:10           ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: " Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-08-23 16:59             ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 17:44               ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 17:58                 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 20:11                   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 20:21                     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 19:40               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 20:38                 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 10:32                   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-24 13:01                   ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 19:53                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 19:40             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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