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From: Joe Eykholt <jeykholt@cisco.com>
To: linux-iscsi-target-dev@googlegroups.com
Cc: "Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vasu Dev <vasu.dev@linux.intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
	James Smart <james.smart@emulex.com>,
	Andrew Vasquez <andrew.vasquez@qlogic.com>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] scsi: Drop struct Scsi_Host->host_lock around	SHT->queuecommand()
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:24:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C93A459.1000009@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1284741478.13344.154.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org>



On 9/17/10 9:37 AM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:57 -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
>> On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 16:22 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>>> I don't disagree with the idea of removing it, especially as it has so
>>>> few users, but replacing the host lock with an atomic here would still
>>>> vastly reduce the contention, which is the initial complaint.  The
>>>
>>> Actually the complaint is the overhead of the spin lock. This can be 
>>> either caused
>>> by contention or by cache line bounce time.
>>
>> The original complaint was contention.  My desire is to reduce the
>> locked path coverage, so I saw an opportunity.
>>
>> What I was actually thinking of for the atomic is that we'd let it range
>> [1..INT_MAX] so a zero was an indicator of no use of this.  Then the
>> actual code could become
>>
>> if (atomic_read(x)) {
>> 	do {
>> 		y = atomic_add_return(1, x);
>> 	} while (y == 0);
>> }

A tiny trick I like to use is to start a serial number at 1 and
increment by 2 so its always odd and then never wraps to 0.
That eliminates the check for 0 (and the curly brackets).

> The conversion of struct scsi_cmnd->serial_number to atomic_t and the
> above code for scsi_cmd_get_serial() sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
> 
> I will take a look at this conversion and respin a complete set of
> patches for review a bit later today.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --nab
> 
>>
>> So "fast" cards not using the serial number set a zero there (we'd
>> default initialise to one), the line is shared so no bouncing (because
>> it's never updated).  This should satisfy everyone.
>>
>>>> contention occurs because the host lock is so widely used for other
>>>> things.  The way to reduce that contention is firstly to reduce the
>>>> length of code covered by the lock and also reduce the actual number of
>>>> places where the lock is taken.  Compared with host lock's current vast
>>>> footprint, and atomic here is tiny.
>>>
>>> That assumes that it's contention that is the problem and not simply 
>>> bounce time.
>>
>> That's what the patch and data that started this whole thread showed,
>> yes ... but I think actual bounce in the spinlock is also a problem ...
>> we just don't have data to show it.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-17 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-16 22:35 [PATCH 1/8] scsi: Drop struct Scsi_Host->host_lock around SHT->queuecommand() Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-17  2:46 ` James Bottomley
2010-09-17  3:02   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-17  3:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17  7:20   ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-17 12:13     ` James Bottomley
2010-09-17 14:22       ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-17 14:57         ` James Bottomley
2010-09-17 16:37           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-17 16:41             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-17 17:49               ` Tim Chen
2010-09-17 18:21                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-17 17:24             ` Joe Eykholt [this message]

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