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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: "Loke, Chetan" <Chetan.Loke@netscout.com>
Cc: Tom Coughlan <coughlan@redhat.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	tasleson@redhat.com, Shyam_Iyer@Dell.com, vgoyal@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] linux servers as a storage server - what'smissing?
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:29:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F1844F0.1030406@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D3F292ADF945FB49B35E96C94C2061B9159134EF@nsmail.netscout.com>

On 01/19/2012 11:26 AM, Loke, Chetan wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ric Wheeler [mailto:rwheeler@redhat.com]
>> Sent: January 19, 2012 11:20 AM
>> To: Loke, Chetan
>> Cc: Tom Coughlan; Hannes Reinecke; tasleson@redhat.com;
>> Shyam_Iyer@Dell.com; vgoyal@redhat.com; linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org;
>> linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
>> Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] linux servers as a storage server -
>> what'smissing?
>>
>> On 01/19/2012 11:17 AM, Loke, Chetan wrote:
>>>> From: linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org
>>> [mailto:linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Tom Coughlan
>>>
>>>> Yes, Red Hat does. Tony Asleson. libStorageMgmt:
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/libstoragemgmt
>>>>
>>>> The current focus is on managing external storage (SMI-S, etc.).
>> This
>>>> focus can be expanded over time. Contributions welcome.
>>>>
>>> Device management(scalability/feature mgmt) -
>>>
>>> 1) scalability:
>>> I may be wrong but storage boxes like symmetrix(and others) support
>>> large number of LUNs.
>>> So device management 'scalability' will make linux shine. By
>> scalability
>>> I mean efficiently managing let's say 32K(?) LUNs.
>> You can actually have (even more) luns than that for each array in a
>> SAN. From a host, you will probably not see all of the luns all of the
> time, but
>> you certainly need to have good support for a large lun address space
> that
>> will be sparsely populated.
>>
>>
> True, a single front-end won't see all of those LUNs/devices. So not a
> big concern
> about the front-end hosts.
>
> I am thinking of a use-case where folks can use a linux-box to manage
> their different storage arrays.
> So this linux box with 'libstoragemgmt + app' needs to
> manage(scan/create/delete/so on) all those LUNs.
>
>
> Chetan Loke

People do have boxes with thousands of luns though & file systems in active use. 
Both for SAN and NAS volumes.

One of the challenges is what to do when just one LUN (or NFS server) crashes 
and burns. You simply cannot "reboot" the server to clean up after one bad mount 
when you have thousands of other happy users runs on thousands/hundreds of other 
mount points :)

Ric


  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-19 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-21 15:59 [LSF/MM TOPIC] linux servers as a storage server - what's missing? Ric Wheeler
2011-12-22  8:14 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-12-22 15:58   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-22 20:54     ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-12-23  3:06       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23  4:35         ` Shyam_Iyer
2012-01-09 12:18       ` Hannes Reinecke
2012-01-09 12:59         ` Tom Coughlan
2012-01-10  6:53           ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-20  8:55             ` Hannes Reinecke
2012-01-19 16:17           ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] linux servers as a storage server - what'smissing? Loke, Chetan
2012-01-19 16:19             ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-19 16:26               ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-19 16:29                 ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2012-01-19 17:32                   ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-19 17:44                     ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-19 21:30                       ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-19 21:39                         ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-24 17:05                           ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-24 18:13                             ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-26 22:24                             ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-26 22:29                               ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-03 19:26 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC][ATTEND] linux servers as a storage server - what's missing? Jeff Layton
2012-01-03 19:32   ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-17 21:16     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-17 21:25       ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-24 21:36   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-24 23:13     ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-25 19:05       ` Christopher R. Hertel
2012-01-25 20:25       ` Christopher R. Hertel
2012-01-25 21:56         ` Roland Dreier
2012-01-25 22:09           ` Christopher R. Hertel
2012-01-26 21:52             ` Andy Grover
2012-01-26 11:15         ` Bart Van Assche
2012-01-18 17:00 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] " Roland Dreier
2012-01-18 17:51   ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-18 18:46     ` Roland Dreier
2012-01-18 18:51       ` Bart Van Assche
2012-01-18 19:00         ` Roland Dreier
2012-01-19  8:16         ` Rolf Eike Beer
2012-01-19 17:50       ` Loke, Chetan

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